Wow! That's a lot of great options, thank you all! Theres some that I have never even thought of like dpx! Their woodsman with niolox sounds nice! Also the gso 3.5 or 4.1's are very nice! I think I'm going to get a lower budget knife like a Mora stainless or broker in 440c for now until I get a fallkniven, bark river, gso or dpx!