suggestions??

larry harley

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hi guys
ive been thinking of compileing an instructional book for kids
id like some feed back here as to what anybody else has done
how do u instruck a kid(anywhere from 7 to 18)
on how to move metal??
begining exercises?? etc
ok i,m listening!!
harley
 
I start them with basic blacksmithing. First, how hot the metal needs to be to forge. Then how the metal moves under the hammer. then how to make an object. The procedure is usually this. I take a piece of 3/16 square mild steel stock 4" long. I show them how to heat up the end. I show them how to taper the end to a point. I show them how to make this point round. They do the other end. Then they heat the middle and bend it double. They heat it and twist it. They spread and shape the end until they have a two pronged hot dog cooker. Then we roast dogs with it. They learn a lot. they have fun. they take something THEY MADE THEMSELVES home. They can actually use the item. I send home an assignment to read a knife making or blacksmithing book (which I usually loan them)

The next lessons are:
Forging a super simple drop point hunter.
Finishing the blade.
Basic HT.
Handles,guards, finishing
Sharpening

I am glad to see someone willing to work with the youth. If not passed on these skills will slowly fade away.

Take care - Stacy
 
Larry, I used to design training programs, and conduct training classes for a company that makes digital imaging equipment, imagesetters for offset printing, software, etc... In addition to designing the curriculum material, I had to run my classes using that material - I trained technicians in ,and from, a variety of countries. Granted, these were all adults - however, I don't speak any foreign languages fluently, and I had to get local technicians in places like Mexico, Korea, China, Brazil and India to the point that they could do complicated repairs on complicated pieces of equipment, in the shortest amount of time possible. After the first class I taught almost 5 years ago, I figured out that what works best at getting a point across is pictures, in addition to concise, "to-the-point" instructions. I would think that the same principle would work with kids - instructions that are concise and easy to follow, and plenty of illustrations, high-quality photos, etc... Anyhow, that's my suggestion, and the how/why behind it. To sum things up - pictures, pictures, pictures! Best of luck with your project - that really sounds like one that is very worthwhile:thumbup:
 
I had a group of scouts here one time. I showed them how to tell high carbon steel from mild steel with the quench and break test. They were amazed. Also I showed fine grain and coarse grain by quenching at different temps. They were awestruck. Kids are cool.
 
I have held small classes on blacksmithing at some of the SCA events I attend. I think it is easier to teach a child to forge than an adult. Many adults have preconceived notions about blacksmithing, many of them wrong. Thanks Hollywood. Children are more willing to accept a new idea, and as long as you can keep their interest up, they tend to stay longer and ask more questions than the adults do. I think one of the most important points to remember when teaching kids, DON'T talk down to them, try to talk to them as you would an adult, but keep the technical terms low. Also, when they have a question along the lines of "what do I do now?" look at the piece they are working on, think if you went over that information before, and then ask them what they think they should do next. They will usually look it over again, and come up with a good suggestion, tiou may need to steer them a bit, but give them credit, they can learn much pretty quickly.

Ken
 
Kids get bored easily! Make it fun. Help them to discover things on their own.
Fred
 
On training for kids
All the above is good advice

My 2 cents

Marketing
Find out what they want and find a way to give it to them
If they want something vs. if you want something = a huge difference in interest and effort
Offer them 3 or 4 choices in projects that you already approve of and let them pick.
Show them what is possible and what they have to do first to achieve the level they want to do


Instructional theory
Make a plan

Tailor the message to the audience
7 to 18 is quite a stretch
18 to 18 can be a huge leap depending on interest, skill level and attitude


Learning styles are broken into 3 types
1. Visual-see
2. Auditory-hear
3. Kinesthetic-do


1. Tell
2. Show
3. Do

1. Tell them how
2. Show them how
3. Have them do it

Do all three and you cover everyone’s preferences and reinforce learning


If there is something with sequential steps
Write them out in order with photos
With forging you can have physical examples of each stage

Handout materials and instructions ahead of time

Consider a power point presentation or web delivered tutorial to reach youth market.

Make the plan realistic
Test it out
Don’t expect to get too far in the time you have
Lavish praise for any level of improvement
90 % of education is encouragement (quote from some educator)

Ensure that no one gets left behind, it’s discouraging

I’m surprised there weren’t 100 suggestions of safety first.
(Just because it’s not red doesn’t mean it’s not hot...Eyes, Ears, Shoes, and Sleeves...if you don’t use your PPE, you don’t work...)
 
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