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The BladeForums.com 2024 Traditional Knife is ready to order! See this thread for details: https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/bladeforums-2024-traditional-knife.2003187/
Price is$300$250 ea (shipped within CONUS). If you live outside the US, I will contact you after your order for extra shipping charges.
Order here: https://www.bladeforums.com/help/2024-traditional/ - Order as many as you like, we have plenty.
SUPER Commander!
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Wow! I likes!! How much $$$ for a conversion??
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Brigadier
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Brigadier
Beretta 92 FS nut and Aspiring Usual Suspect
"And for this cause God shall send them stong delusion,that they should believe a lie;" 2 Thessalonians 2:11
"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove[expose] them." Ephesians 5:11
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Not to worry, some trolling bastard will say something is wrong with it sooner or later.
Personally, I have been wanting one like this for some time.
I think it is excellent.
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Usual Suspect Some of my Knives and other neat things
Personally, I have been wanting one like this for some time.
I think it is excellent.
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Usual Suspect Some of my Knives and other neat things
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That thing is all wrong !!!
The whole layout is dangerous, why don't you guy's get on the ball, you'll put your eye out with that thing.
Donald (AKA Trolling Bastard)
The whole layout is dangerous, why don't you guy's get on the ball, you'll put your eye out with that thing.
Donald (AKA Trolling Bastard)
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[Strokes Goatee and not a van Dyke, contemplates recent trolling by liars and psychotics...]
Example:
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Usual Suspect Some of my Knives and other neat things
Example:
"You're apparently ripping off the Benchmade Pinnacle, a superior knife..."
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In all seriousness, that thing is awesome.
A Commander with an integral lock, that just puts the cherry on top.
Super duper carry piece !!!!
If this thing will be something that can be ordered then I'll be first on line !!!!
Donald
A Commander with an integral lock, that just puts the cherry on top.
Super duper carry piece !!!!
If this thing will be something that can be ordered then I'll be first on line !!!!
Donald
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OK, sorry for the tease. I'd planned on posting more info, but I'm at work and you know how that goes.
Here's the deal.
The work was done by Neil Blackwood aka Dr.Lathe. He does plan on offering this conversion but is still working out the details. His website is at www.blackwoodknives.com, and you can contact him through the website. The one in the pic is MINE, all MINE I say!! It will have a finish on the titanium similar to Tom Mayo's TNT's, the inside of the ti will be jeweled and anodized dark blue, and all the edges will be beveled.
At this time Neil is leaning toward only doing this conversion on 2000 models so he can make up some machining fixtures to speed up the process.
The pic was taken before anodizing and beveling; I should have a finalized pic in a few days. By then Neil will probably be able to answer any questions you will have about ordering one. Tonight I'll post the pics of the lock side, and a shot of the lock contacting the pivot.
Pretty cool, huh!
Here's the deal.
The work was done by Neil Blackwood aka Dr.Lathe. He does plan on offering this conversion but is still working out the details. His website is at www.blackwoodknives.com, and you can contact him through the website. The one in the pic is MINE, all MINE I say!! It will have a finish on the titanium similar to Tom Mayo's TNT's, the inside of the ti will be jeweled and anodized dark blue, and all the edges will be beveled.
At this time Neil is leaning toward only doing this conversion on 2000 models so he can make up some machining fixtures to speed up the process.
The pic was taken before anodizing and beveling; I should have a finalized pic in a few days. By then Neil will probably be able to answer any questions you will have about ordering one. Tonight I'll post the pics of the lock side, and a shot of the lock contacting the pivot.
Pretty cool, huh!
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I MUST HAVE ONE!!!!!
I think Mr. BLackwood just opened up a whole can of worms for himself - he won't be able to keep up with the orders!!
PT - it looks amazing! Can't wait to see the finished piece, and find out how many bills I'll have to put off to be able to afford it.
I think Mr. BLackwood just opened up a whole can of worms for himself - he won't be able to keep up with the orders!!
PT - it looks amazing! Can't wait to see the finished piece, and find out how many bills I'll have to put off to be able to afford it.
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Holy Cripers!
Might as well put away those Balckwood Knives, you are going to be killed with orders.
OK, now for you dreamers...frame-lock Commander, Stellite blade...oh the humanity
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Might as well put away those Balckwood Knives, you are going to be killed with orders.
OK, now for you dreamers...frame-lock Commander, Stellite blade...oh the humanity
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Damn it! I was going to approach a specific custom maker at the Blade Show about doing this very same thing. Joel played with the idea some time back.
Now there's no use in that if Neal Blackwood is going to do it.
But there again, setting up to do half a dozen to a dozen has to lower the costs a bit.
"I see another project Commander in my near future!"
John
Now there's no use in that if Neal Blackwood is going to do it.
But there again, setting up to do half a dozen to a dozen has to lower the costs a bit.
"I see another project Commander in my near future!"
John
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Oh and his site is http://www.blackwoodknives.com
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WOW!!
I'm not sure where to start.....Thanks for a warm welcome for pretty much a stranger on this forum!!! I've been overwhelmed with NICE E mails, I appreciate that!!!
This project has been in the works since around the first of the year. I told Paul when I started, I would work in it between fixed blade orders. With no more Stellite OR Talonite left in the shop, this was the perfect week to work on folders. In addition to customizing the Commander, I'm also developing several of my own designs.
The project.....
There turns out to me much more than just replacing the thin liners with thicker materal. As I started to disassemble the stock Commander I noticed the secondary detent on the oposite frame panel from the lock. This is impossible to produce in the thick Ti frame without lazer cutting. The Detent in the stock lock bar only rides on the side of the blade and has no detent hole to drop into. I assume this is done so the bar doesn't scrap on the blade as it pivots. In order to have a functioning detent, I had to not only press a ball into the lock arm, a "spot" had to be made on the blade in the proper position.
The lock arm on the standard model is cut on a curve to follow the shape of the finger notch. Again, this is imposible to do without lazer cutting. I made the lock arm straight and quite a bit wider than the standard one. The other FUN thing with the lock bar was making it resemble the standard one. It's hard to describe but can be seen in the lock side picture. Most liner lock slots require 2 cuts, this one requires 3!!! It cannot be done with normal slotting methods. I had to make a special cutter in order to mill the vertical slot!! I replaced the 4 small screws at the butt with 2 4-40 screws, It's SOLID!!
The last thing I'm considering is the stop pin. Ther is room for a larger one. On this model I used a hardened threaded one with two screws to capture it on the ends at the same time providing more frame strength. The stock version uses a pin that's captured on each side by the G10 panels but uses no screws.
Right now the lockup is VERY solid. Material has been relieved in a groove at the back of the lock bar. It takes a good amout of pressure to release the lock!! The last thing I wanted to do was remove TOO much and have a WIMPY lock arm!!!
Right now we are deciding on finish. I'm also considering some grooves in the frame and on the top edge for grip. I also have to drill and tap the clip mounting holes. So far I'm rather pleased with the results
Availability.....
Right now I have a 2-3 month backlog for fixed blades and MUST keep them on schedule. I couldn't even START another Commander for at least 2 weeks!! My thoughts were to purchase the knives, make them up as time allows and sell them as they're finished. This would eliminate deposits and shipping knives back and forth. I would be GLAD to use the order of recieved Emails I recieved to start with. Several Emails mentioned they already had new models, I will work on them also.
Price.......
At this point it's all a matter of shop time. I found it faster to make a complete folder than working around the Commander blade and design!!
Based on the amount of time it took to make this one, I'm going to put the price at $300 for the conversion. This would make the total for a complete knife at around $450. Joking around with Paul, I said of someone wants to jump in and make them for less, I'll send them one of my Commanders
As always, I'm open to ideas, suggestions, criticisms, etc.
I'm off to answer a BUNCH of Emails
Neil
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Talonite......Stellite
Hand Made Knives..High Tech Materials
blackwoodknives.com
[This message has been edited by Dr.Lathe (edited 05-31-2001).]
I'm not sure where to start.....Thanks for a warm welcome for pretty much a stranger on this forum!!! I've been overwhelmed with NICE E mails, I appreciate that!!!
This project has been in the works since around the first of the year. I told Paul when I started, I would work in it between fixed blade orders. With no more Stellite OR Talonite left in the shop, this was the perfect week to work on folders. In addition to customizing the Commander, I'm also developing several of my own designs.
The project.....
There turns out to me much more than just replacing the thin liners with thicker materal. As I started to disassemble the stock Commander I noticed the secondary detent on the oposite frame panel from the lock. This is impossible to produce in the thick Ti frame without lazer cutting. The Detent in the stock lock bar only rides on the side of the blade and has no detent hole to drop into. I assume this is done so the bar doesn't scrap on the blade as it pivots. In order to have a functioning detent, I had to not only press a ball into the lock arm, a "spot" had to be made on the blade in the proper position.
The lock arm on the standard model is cut on a curve to follow the shape of the finger notch. Again, this is imposible to do without lazer cutting. I made the lock arm straight and quite a bit wider than the standard one. The other FUN thing with the lock bar was making it resemble the standard one. It's hard to describe but can be seen in the lock side picture. Most liner lock slots require 2 cuts, this one requires 3!!! It cannot be done with normal slotting methods. I had to make a special cutter in order to mill the vertical slot!! I replaced the 4 small screws at the butt with 2 4-40 screws, It's SOLID!!
The last thing I'm considering is the stop pin. Ther is room for a larger one. On this model I used a hardened threaded one with two screws to capture it on the ends at the same time providing more frame strength. The stock version uses a pin that's captured on each side by the G10 panels but uses no screws.
Right now the lockup is VERY solid. Material has been relieved in a groove at the back of the lock bar. It takes a good amout of pressure to release the lock!! The last thing I wanted to do was remove TOO much and have a WIMPY lock arm!!!
Right now we are deciding on finish. I'm also considering some grooves in the frame and on the top edge for grip. I also have to drill and tap the clip mounting holes. So far I'm rather pleased with the results
Availability.....
Right now I have a 2-3 month backlog for fixed blades and MUST keep them on schedule. I couldn't even START another Commander for at least 2 weeks!! My thoughts were to purchase the knives, make them up as time allows and sell them as they're finished. This would eliminate deposits and shipping knives back and forth. I would be GLAD to use the order of recieved Emails I recieved to start with. Several Emails mentioned they already had new models, I will work on them also.
Price.......
At this point it's all a matter of shop time. I found it faster to make a complete folder than working around the Commander blade and design!!
Based on the amount of time it took to make this one, I'm going to put the price at $300 for the conversion. This would make the total for a complete knife at around $450. Joking around with Paul, I said of someone wants to jump in and make them for less, I'll send them one of my Commanders
As always, I'm open to ideas, suggestions, criticisms, etc.
I'm off to answer a BUNCH of Emails
Neil
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Talonite......Stellite
Hand Made Knives..High Tech Materials
blackwoodknives.com
[This message has been edited by Dr.Lathe (edited 05-31-2001).]