Super compact shelter

I make my own tarps from Silnylon. One day I'll probably have ago with Cuben, but no pressing need yet.


Regardless of who makes it get a decent sized one if weather is a threat rather than an inconvenience. I've just noticed that ESEE is continuing the theme of peddling ridiculously overpriced gear. They are currently selling a tarp that is half the size of what most decent tarps are at twice the average price. I know I wouldn't be a happy bunny under that if the weather cut up rough here. 1.5m * 1.5 is close to a picnic parasol and little else.
 
Sure mine was heavier than that. It wasn't super light nylon and had more attachment options than anything else around. Great bit of kit though.
I still use mine often. That's what it weighs. It's an Aussie solid OD issue item vs the later and/or after market which can weigh anywhere between 900-1200 grams and maybe even more.
 
Cut a piece of tyvek to whatever measurements you want (it's pretty cheap). A cheap shower cutain for a ground cover. A couple zip ties and twine. Altogether probably less than $10.
 
Cut a piece of tyvek to whatever measurements you want (it's pretty cheap). A cheap shower cutain for a ground cover. A couple zip ties and twine. Altogether probably less than $10.
Tyvek makes a great ground cloth too and is MUCH lighter than a shower curtain. Tyvek only weights 1.85 oz per yard. Just wash it in a washing machine (without soap) and HANG dry it so it won't be so noisy/crinkly.

Many now use polycro/window shrink wrap instead of Tyvek as it's about 4X lighter than Tyvek. Polycro/window shrink wrap will work for a one-time or very limited us ultra-light/compact survival shelter.

Advantages of Tyvek is that it'll last, and you can easily glue Tyvek loops/attachment points to a Tyvek tarp without adding appreciable weight.
 
troutfisher13111, TOMBSTONE has done you a good one there.

Even if you don't buy from there it makes it really easy to compare weights between silnylon and regular coated ripstop. For example look at 10*10: 32oz vs 18oz.

True, 10*10 is big, and you could likely get away with less. I can easily get two people under one of my 10*10 and still cook happily. And that isn't just two people laying there like sardines either, on a single overnight. That's two people cooperating under that and not pissing each other off for a bunch longer than that waiting for the weather to clear up.

Sure, you could scoot over to Amazon and snag up a 10*7 silnylon jobbie - Packed size: 12 x 5 x 1.5 inch. Compressed: 4.5 x 3.5 x 3.5 inch, and I'm sure it could work well. I've used that kind of size a lot myself. But that bit of extra size offers you so much more. In the old days fabrics were so heavy that one would recover weight wherever possible, likewise packed size. And those few feet made a huge difference. If you could recover some by pruning and / or using longer lines and not pegging down tight, the temptation was often too much to resist.

I've no idea what the weather is like where you go, but if it is at all likely to be bad then I'd strongly urge you to spend a few more quid and get something bigger in silnylon. There are way too many videos and photos floating about with people doing simple overnights with a bit of bath towel sized fabric. That's splendid if you just have vertical rain from a sheep cloud in cartoon land. Blowing a gail in grotty conditions and man would they struggle. Of course they don't show you photos or video of that, 'cos they stayed at home. The way out of that is to really hunker down under ya scrawny bit of fabric. That works, been there, done that, more times than I can remember, but as a sage man once said; “any fool can be uncomfortable”.

Before you decide to spend strongly consider:

1] For the same packed size and weight you can a have something much bigger in silnylon.
2] What are you dependent on to pitch effectively? Trees? Rocky bits that are just right? Do you need to mess about finding twigs?
3] How weather tight are the options you are considering really? It's easy to go all ego about how you'd be fine with something smaller 'cos you are…well you. Strip that by framing as a problem when you are not you, or not you at your best...knackered, battered, mebe a bit broken off. What would you want over a family member in inclement weather, a poncho sized thing flapping up high between two twigs or something more?
4] Rain alone does not count as tough conditions.
5] Most survival courses and instructors you see on the interwebz need a squirting with the diarrhoea crowd control device. It is fully congruent with what they are peddling. Fact.


Just for ref look at the below. Decent sized tarp and a bit of origami skill gets that up with a single pole. Imagine you are in that with your pack and whatever salvage pulled in behind you blocking the door. Do you want to be in that in a sideways driving hail storm or under something lower?

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I was in a Walmart this afternoon and noticed they have a tube tent made of space blanket material. Pocket size and better than no shelter at all....
 
I was in a Walmart this afternoon and noticed they have a tube tent made of space blanket material. Pocket size and better than no shelter at all....

I was introduced to tube tents on the AT back in the early 1970's. Cheap, light, compact though not extremely durable. I think they were made of thin vinyl back then. Still a good emergency shelter for not much money. Throw in a few zip ties and some mason's twine.
 
By super compact emergency, I mean something minimal that will be thrown in my hunting pack and only used for an unexpected night in the woods.

You can always sneak in one or two of those tiny emergency/space blankets as an extra heat retention barrier, beneath whatever you choose as the outer. Tiny, weigh nothing. Might be all you end up with as an outer layer over your clothes, if you have to over tarp/protect your fire in a rain. If it can go bad, it will go bad.
 
I would only recommend testing out whatever system you ultimately decide on. Most of these lightweight shelters require adequate ground insulation and ensuring you where the appropriate clothing layers...if you test your system, you'll quickly find out that survival is nowhere near comfort. You may make it through a rough night and survive, but there will be moments you almost wish you wouldn't! Test them out in cold/wet conditions and figure out if it will work or if you need to augment.

ROCK6
 
One of the SOL products is gonna meet your needs for the surprise night in the woods.

Yes, and what's neat about them is they have that additional orange layer that kind of fights tearing quite well, despite the thinness. Many of those thermal blankets, if a tear starts its ruined...

Gaston
 
When I first started backpacking back in the 70's, I used a shower curtain. They were durable and cheap. Funky colors back then ...
 
I am looking for a super compact emergency shelter for the northeast. Right now I have it narrowed down between the Heatsheet and large heavy duty trash orange trash bag. Any opinions on which one works better?

A Backpackers Poncho from REI for $35
Covers you fully to sit under
Spreads well for a tarp
You can walk in it

I sealed all the seams
 
A Backpackers Poncho from REI for $35
Covers you fully to sit under
Spreads well for a tarp
You can walk in it

I sealed all the seams

I have something similar in camo, that I got who knows were. It reminded me of the poncho hoochies (sp?) that we set up as kids in Army Cadets up here.
 
I have something similar in camo, that I got who knows were. It reminded me of the poncho hoochies (sp?) that we set up as kids in Army Cadets up here.

I used hike in the Appalachians with a poncho and blanket, years before it was cool and bushcraft
This is how I used to set up the poncho (US Army Vietnam era Surplus)
It was good even in torrential rain

 
How much $$$? I keep one of those SOL heatsheets with me along with some paracord. If I wanted to go upscale, I'd get an oversized breathable poncho.
 
I stumbled across this video today from intense angler that someone had posted on FB. This is basically what I do/carry/have tested but he's using different items but this should give a cleared idea of what I was talking about

[video]https://youtu.be/Vzl2rPdiwYQ[/video]
 
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