Surviorman, Season 2, Ep 5: Alaska

straitshot, I've gotta respectfully disagree with you.

straitshot said:
I've mentioned elsewhere about the need for licenses for fishing, hunting, and trapping even if it's just incidental or "practice". There is usually an all-year season for some small game and nongame. If Les is going to do it right, it's easy to stay legal. I don't see why it would cause outrage to do what many of us do for sport.

Aside from that, I suspect he just went along with the NPS on the fine. It would be extremely difficult for them to make a case for Commercial Filming in his method- filming himself camping out. No, it would be extremely easy for them to make a case. By definition, he is up there filming a popular TV show for the Discovery Channel. I can see it now:
DA: "Your Honor, here is a copy of the DVD of the program in question. It was aired in both the United States and in Canada on the Discovery Channel, a commercial cable station. We purchased it from the Discovery Channel website. It is an episode of a popular TV program in its second season."

JUDGE: "Mr. Stroud, is it still your assertion that you were simply filming yourself camping?"

LES: "Uh, have you heard me play the harmonica?"
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The State of Alaska takes this very seriously. I've had one of their investigators contact me in regard to a video we (used to) carry. Apparently, the producer chose not to secure the necessary permit prior to filming his hunting video. Apparently there were other game violations caught on tape or I'm pretty sure they would have let him write a check for the permit and possibly a fine. Instead, he's looking at multiple criminal charges. Lots of guys film their hunting and fishing that end up on outdoor TV. They aren't MGM and a cast of thousands tearing up the countryside or exploding cars. No. Les was on state land for the purpose of "exploiting" it for profit. There is nothing wrong with that, but the state has decided that if an individual, or a company, wants to make a commercial production utilizing the state land, then the state wants a taste. It is no different than if someone wanted to film a scene in the state capital building. If it is just Uncle Clint filming his vacation, fine. Then again, if it is Clint Eastwood using the same building for a scene in a movie he is making, they have the right to charge, control, or prohibit. Jeez.:) ss.
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-- FLIX
 
I guess it's been said already, but he didn't cut on a rock, he cut on wood. I really appreciated his knive talk this time.

As far as him starving goes, he knew where to get some food to live on. He was working on other methods of food retrievale, but he knows he's there for 7 days. No longer. If he were going to be there longer, he'd do more. It's a survival show, not a pack up and get the fark out of the city forever show.
 
AustinTXShooter said:
I read on Wikipedia and another forum that Les was cited for illegal commercial filming. Apparently you have to apply for a permit to film in a national park and some park rangers came across his camp and saw the cameras. After a quick check for $2800 was written to the National Park Service, he was allowed to continue filming.

http://www.outdoors-411.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=6576&sid=d357dfd92c742193ebf687da0b1a8377
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What is the moral of the story, boys and girls? If you're ever lost in Alaska start filming yourself! Someone will be along right away to cite you!

-- FLIX
 
B Finnigan said:
I saw that episode last night. I saw most of the show but did he actually try to find any shellfish? The salmon were spawning and usually will not bite on bait. I have caught them with spinners because the noise/vibration causes them to strike it.

Of all the places I would choose to be stranded would be a temperate coastal beach just for the shellfish. Clams, barnacles, chitons, urchins, mussels are all edible and very tasty. He could have have got salmonella, shigela(sp?) or several other microbes and been dead within 2-3 days from the sh&^s by eating rotten salmon.

There were several places that looked like oyster beds that he kayaked around.
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I was really surprised when he didn't do a little foraging in the tide pools.

I've been told that there's an Inuit saying that goes something to the effect 'when the tide is out the table is set.'

Having done some snorkelling on the Alaskan coast I can say it's the truth. It is amazing how much edible stuff can be found in waist deep water at low tide.. I'm not sure just how tasty some of it would be absent alot of garlic and butter, but it would be nutritious.

I wonder if being in a National Park/Preserve had something to do with him not foraging any shellfish.
 
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