Surviorman, Season 2, Ep1: Kalahari

Les probably finished filming his episode way before Bear's episode ever aired. I doubt Les was taking a dig at Bear. Instead he was just conveying correct and rational info.

Sadly, I only caught the last 20 minutes of the show, and forgot to record the re-air. I guess I'll catch it all another time.
 
gunknifenut said:
I missed this one, I am packing for the big move and didn't watch...sounds like I missed a good one. When I was in the Army, we did alot of NBC training (Nulear, Biological, Chemical) which invovles getting into your MOP suit..basically a neoprene and charcoal suit covered in BDU material. While training for this type of event is important..it really sucks. The suit is extremely hot..while training in July while stationed in TX, I was running around with my M-60 and full battle rattle....for over 2 hours...I can tell you, while standing in the decontamination line..I blacked out. I was told that I simple fell over like a sack of potatoes. And I was not alone...most if not all the soldiers present were "cheating", by removing thier Gasmask and drinking from thier canteens..hell, just trying to breath! I remember none of it, I woke under a tree with an IV in, and felt like I was in Ice water...My skin was crawling and I had the worse headache of my life..my skin was red and hot to the touch, but I felt cold...these are not good symtoms to have, we trained alot on preventing heat exaution and stroke..I believe to this day, that if that was a real world mission, that most if not all of my unit would have perished. Over 50% of the guys from my platoon were in the shade and hurting..the other 50% were on thier way out, but many had been in the fromt of the line getting out of thier suits about one half hour before the rest. It was 102 degrees in the shade, and the suit can raise yor body temp by 20 degrees IIRC. The moral of the story is, that if a fit well hydrated soldier can fall out after 2 hours of extreme heat...that after a couple of days..without the "suit" you can be in world of hurt quickly. It is dificult to judge your own condition once you are tired. Whenever in the outdoors, knowing what heat stroke looks like, and all the symtoms, being as careful as you can, and staying hydrated...is very important. This was an extreme training exercise, carrying all the gear, and running around playing GI Joe, wearing the suit..this is not what you would experience in the wild on a hike...but the result could be the same after a longer duration of time.
Gene
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Aw, memories. I don't know when you were in or if you were in on the gear-up for Gulf War Part One but we were told that we were going to be deployed and our command was so freaked out that chemical weapons would be used, they started having us do PT in MOPP-4. Every spare moment was spent on NBC training. We never did end up being deployed.

I've got an Army buddy from that time period coming to visit this weekend. I think I'll wait until he nods off, then give him the old "GAS! GAS! GAS!". I'd like to see how deeply the reactions were trained in.
 
Gunknifenut,

Wait till your a grandpa. It's even better. But you'll be balder and fatter.:D
 
Another vote for 'best episode yet'.

Amazingly, Les was able to film his ordeal despite his depleted condition. He demonstrated a wealth of good information. And the small amounts of water he got from roots and improvised field distillation probably made the difference in enabling him to continue.

Any fear that Stroud would be forced to 'juice up' his show to compete with Grylls is now banished.
 
I finally watched the episode, and let me say I am a fan. Les' Urban survival: Flood show was top shelf in my opinion. However, I do enjoy pointing out a few things to debate while I am in my cozy chair.

1. Why did he wait 5 or 6 days to make the urine/bush still?
2. Egg plus jelly equals mmmm good.
3. Maybe put the plastic bag over the hole in the weaver nest rather than the spear. But that was kind of funny.
4. Calling BS on the salvage job. This is Les. He cuts himself looking at glass, but this show he doesn't get a nick while using the multi-tool on the vehicle? I always cut a knuckle removing hoses.

I freely admit I have had no training/experience in an arid place like that sans what I read.
 
JimMLa said:
1. Why did he wait 5 or 6 days to make the urine/bush still?
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Very good point

JimMLa said:
3. Maybe put the plastic bag over the hole in the weaver nest rather than the spear. But that was kind of funny.
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Me and friend were talking yesterday about the very same thing, I don't think he wanted to catch a bird that badly, we were talking about making a bag out of our tshirt to catch them in. Chris
 
I was thinking he should have fashioned some sort of mega-flyswatter and smacked a bunch of birds once he flushed them from the nest.

-- FLIX
 
Marcelo Cantu said:
What I wouldn't give for a Fremen stillsuit.:D
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Hooray for the first DUNE refrence i've read here. I just read DUNE this summer and just started the 2nd book. They are great books with a lot of philosophy and incredible style. I will probably end up reading the whole series soon.
 
Although the DUNE books are so epic that they're hard to capture on film, I recommend the Sci Fir Channel produced miniseries -- both Dune and Children of Dune are available on DVD (note that the Dune DVD is the unedited European version, which is PG-13).


I personally like the David Lynch film version but in my mind it keeps the major story points but completely changes the underlying themes of the novel. Many Dune fans hate it, though.
 
I loved the original Frank Herbert DUNE series other than books #2 and #3, didn't quite get them. His son's new series are okay but not quite up to par.

Did not like the Lynch version, much prefer the SciFi version.
 
I loved the first 2 dune books. Dune Messiah is really a coda to Dune. I kinda think of them as one book. I love Frank Herbert's books but after Dune Messiah the series started to slide downhill. I think i stopped reading the series at "Chapterhouse-Dune".
 
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