Survival Kits

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Hey all,
I've heard lots of different opinions on survival kits, both here and offline. I was wondering what you all define as your survival kits. I know that many go with the altoids tin, then medium and larger kits. Could one or all of you define to me your:

Altoids tin surval kit

Medium pouch survival kit

Larger survival kit

This would greatly help my construction, for my kits.

Thanks,

Camp
 
I use a layered system... each layer takes everything from the previous layer and adds something.

I generally carry most of the parts that go into an ordinary altoids tin kit about my person in every day carry, so I don't carry a centralized altoids tin kit.

My every day carry consists of the general stuff (wallet, keys, cell phone) but also a small first aid pouch on my belt, a spare wallet lots of useful items in it, a small mirror, lighter, a couple of pocket knives, LED keychain light, surefire light, multitool, and so on.

My smallest survival kit is a cargo pocket sized SAS tin thing. It contains all the basics- This is the minimum I'll carry if I know I'm going out into a situation where it might be needed- for instance, hunting, hiking, geocaching, and so on. It's also a component in the next few layers.

The next step up is a fanny pack, vest, or small backpack. It can carry the SAS tin, but also additional items that won't fit into the tin that would be useful, so this can be considered a survival kit expansion pack. Things like 550 cord, GPS, shelter, bug repellant, mosquito headnets, canteen w/ cup, belt knife, energy bars, LED headlamp, etc. Basically a "packing light" setup specialized for wilderness survival. While the SAS tin is the minimum I'll carry when I know I'm heading out of civilization, this is what I will usually carry.

The next step up is what most people call a bug out bag, but go bag, get home bag, 72 hour kit, and so on. It's basically a medium sized backpack that might be a little too heavy for everyday hiking, but carries all of the above mentioned gear, and more of what I might need if I have to go anywhere on short notice. A change of clothes, hygene gear, more food and water, larger first aid kit, and so on. The idea is not paranoid militia "the government is going to turn on you", SHTF, TEOTWAWKI, PAW, and so forth- the idea is you just have something ready to go incase you need to leave in a hurry -- for whatever reason.

Say there's a hurricane coming. Maybe your house is on fire. Maybe your 7, your father is in the military, and he has been called up and has to leave with only a few hours notice, and you have to go to one of his friends house so they can watch you for a few days. Maybe construction workers uncovered an old WWII 500 lbs bomb buried in your backyard and everyone in the area needs to evacuate for a few days. See what I'm saying? The idea is that you don't find yourself in tom cruise's situation in war of the worlds, where you run in and go "we're leaving this house in 60 seconds" and have to scramble to find things you might need. Instead, you just grab your bag and you're ready to go. Now, you have a little time left over to think about anything extra you might need that fits that particular situation. If your house is on fire, you grab your bag, and have plenty of time to think "I should grab these valuables, or my lockbox with personal files and information in it" on the way out. More importantly, for people with families, getting them out is first priority. You don't have much time to screw around thinking about the long term when you're feeling your way through smoke trying to get family to safety, so you do that ahead of time by making a bag and just grabbing it when you need to go.

The bugout bag contains all the components from the previous levels, so you are ready for wilderness survival if you need it, but the point is it's not limited to that. It's for a wide spectrum of possible scenarios. Far more likely, you will look for a hotel to stay in for a few nights if you have to evacuate. Or a friends/relatives place. Or even your car on the side of the road- but if you DO find yourself in the wilderness with nothing but your bag, you're ready for that too. For those living in areas where you can predict the most likely situation, like in hurricane or earthquake prone areas, you can tune your bag more towards that and it will still be useful in other situations since you still have the basics covered.

The last level of course is the vehicle kit. Basically it combines all of the previous levels, but also contains vehicle specific components to keep you running. More water, wool blanket, tool kit, spare parts, spare tire, can of fix-a-flat, tow ropes, compressor maybe, chains, battery starter, etc.

I didn't speak of guns because that doesn't apply to everybody. If you have a concealed carry permit, you carry your pistol as part of your every day carry and since each level incorporates the previous, you'll have it for all. Long guns can be introduced where appropriate given the situation.
 
Food, Clothes, Shelter, Fire. What is your skill level? How much weight are you willing to carry? A knife goes a LONG WAY in my world. When you are in deep doodoo what do you have available, i.e. resources. Resourcefulness is the best skill to have IMO.Think like an animal.
 
This is just my outdoor survival kit which is a RAT-7, with altoids kit.
This is also included in my other kits. My BOB is just my backpacking gear packed and ready to go. My med size kit is in my backpack for school (college student) and I dont have time to take it out and list its contents. I hope that this helps.

Outdoor Survival Kit
1 .RAT-7 D-2 knife with Spec-Ops survival sheath
12ft para cord wrapped on sheath, leg lanyard
This knife was chosen because of how well if fit my hand. It is very strong, holds a good edge and is not too heavy or bulky. It will chop smaller trees and limbs but it is not a machete by any means. It has a 7in drop point blade with 2in serrated edge, full tang D-2 steel with lanyard hole.
2 .Tool Logic pocket knife, Fire model
3in blade, half serrated, whistle, and flint rod, 2ft parachute cord tied to RAT Sheath
This is a very nice tool. It can be used for so many tings. It is very handy and a minimalist kit in its self. If in a serious survival situation this knife would go on around my neck with the para cord to insure that I would not be separated from it.

3. Altoids can, in sheath gear pocket, this holds all of the other little stuff
lid can be used as a mirror. This can also be used to cook in and make a lantern or candle to keep a snow cave warm or cook over if needed.

4. Spark-Lite and tinder
This is not the best flint that I have ever seen but it will do a good job should I run out of matches. It will be better than friction methods. It was chosen because of its small size, I think that I would rather have a long rod of flint but should I lose my knife flint would not do me much good.

5. Reynolds Oven bag, used as water container.
This will hold much more water than a condom, but takes up a little more space. I think that it is worth it because it is much more versatile and puncture resistant. I believe that it can also be used to boil water in using the hot rock methods.

6. Wind/water proof matches
“Life Boat”, 20x with striker. These are good matches and burn very hot, however some of the wood stick parts tend to crack or be weak. Make sure you select only the best to go in your kit.

7. Wire Saw, British SAS, with parachute cord instead of key rings
This is for sawing wood, bone, and soft metals. Very handy and compact. Uses are numerable, everything from fire wood to shelters to traps. One of these should be included in every kit.

8. Jig saw blade,
It has 14tpi (teeth per inch) and the back side sharpened into a 2in tanto blade, over all it is almost 3in long. I found out that the Black & Decker jig saw blades are much stronger and thicker than normal ‘hack saw’ blades. It will take some time to sharpen the back of it and it will take a ‘tanto’ form. I was able to sharpen mine to the point that it will shave hair off my arm. This can be lashed to a stick, bone, or antler to create a very handy cutting tool. The saw can be used for trap building or anything small that needs to be sawed. The blade is to be used mostly for small cutting jobs ( small game, fish, or traps) when ever fine control is needed and a 7in blade is too much


9. Portable Aqua.
24, in a straw for protection. This with the Reynolds bag and you have clean water. It will only clean 3 gallons but its better than nothing.

10. Sewing kit
15 assorted threads
2 small needles
1 large needle to use as awl
1 curved needle, 2 small brass pins
4 buttons, 4 small safety pins, 1 large safety pin

11. Fishing kit
2 rolls of 25ft 20lb line, a total of 50ft
18 BB size split shot sinkers
10, size 10 gold hooks
10, size 8 hooks
5, size 6 hooks
1, size 7/0 hook, to use as a gaff, wrapped with small wire to attach to pole
1, salt water hook ( 4in long) as large gaff, wrapped with small wire to attach to pole
-the gaff can also be used on small game, reptiles, and birds
If you are where it is likely to catch fish you should have a extensive fishing kit, not just a few hooks and some line.

12. Snare Wire, 28gauge galvanized 1roll of 17ft, 1 roll of 7ft
another roll of smaller wire for misc uses, too small for snares, but would work for birds.
Just like the fishing kit, if there are a good deal of small critters running about bring as much snare wire as you can fit in your kit. The more snares you put up the better chance you will have of catching something.

13.Razor blade
Just thought it might come in handy. Takes up very little space. It can also be made into a compass if magnetized and suspended by a string it will align with North and South.

14. Large Paper clip

15. Large safety pin
Used as a pin, removing splinters, can be broken and made into a compass or fish hook

16. Meds, 2 Tylenol 500mg, 6 Benadryl in small plastic bag, and 2 multi vitamins.
Tylenol is good for fevers, but not an effective pain reliever. The Benadryl is for allergic reactions to insects, foods, or anything else. The vitamins are just incase I end up out for a while, it will take some time for vitamin deficiency to take place.

17. Dryer Lint
It is used to keep everything from moving around but it also makes some very good tinder for fires and can easily be lit with the spark-lite.

18. Roll of floss, waxed.
Very strong and can be used for stitching wounds, clothes, fishing line, or any other need for a strong string.

.Diamond sharpening stone, not in altoids tin.
This was not put in the tin because the tin will be sealed with duct tape. I do not want to have to open my tin if I only need to sharpen my knife. It sits just fine in the pocket out side of the tin.

Also added to the pocket on the knife sheath is a film canister with petrolium jelly soaked cotton balls. And a Magninsum/flint fire tool with large jigsaw blade.
 
I can't add much to what's already been shared above as far as equipment. My main BOB contains the basics in gear, bedroll, some clothing and food. It weighs 25# without water.

My overnighter, which will actually take me much further than overnight, but is a much smaller rucksack, has the basics, plus some food, thermal shirt, shorts, socks and bedroll wrapped around it. It weighs in at 15# without water.

My truck bag contains the basics, a little food, lined nylon windbreaker jacket and poncho and weighs about 6# without water.

Possibles bag has the life saving basics, but no food or clothing and weighs 3.5# without water.

EDC gives me a knife, fire, mirror, fish kit, leather finger tab and weighs less than a #.
 
I can't add much more to what been said. Like Burncyle I carry my urban mini-kit with on me all the time, but is not cetralized. A Leatherman Wave, a Timex Expedition belt clip watch that includes a compass and a red l.e.d. light, an Inova Micro-light (white), a mini first aid kit in my pocket (4 band-aids, 2 children band-aids, 1 Triple Antibiotic, 1 Iodine swipe, 2 alcohol swipes, 2 blistex lip oinment puches, 6 Tylenol, 8 Advil, 4 Benadril, and 6 Imodium), $20.00 extra cash, and a phone calling card (I have the number memorized).

The best discussion on Survival kits I've seen is in a book by John D. McCann called Build the Perfect Survival Kit. I reviewed this book some time ago.

I hope this helps.http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=346772&highlight=kit
 
Guys,
What will be your recommendation from which kits it is better to start collecting tin kit, then medium and large? I guess, it is possible to buy some good kit, then complete with items you like, but at the same time that ready-to-buy kit had most essentials and of a good quality?
Another question: it is not better to keep the kit spread around your body instead of keeping in one box? If you lose the box you will lose everything, not if it is spread in your pockets (unless you lose your clothes).
 
I carry a small but-pack with a first aid kit.." modified to the exteme" four..12 hour cylume sticks..an emergancy fishing kit salvaged from a pilots survival kit...a high power TAC liight..50 ft of 550 cord..a fire starting kit...a Timex Expedition, indiglo clip on watch..a KA-BAR Mule....a SOG..Multi tool..emergancy blanket...a folding saw..and a sharpening stone..plus a small sewing kit and a folding water bag with purification tablets taped to it...maybe a little much for some people but I am a firm believer in being prepared. The whole kit is not very big and can be modified according to your needs...but always a good knife..a good first aid kit..a good light source..and fire starting kit as a start..IMO
 
OmegaA said:
Guys,
What will be your recommendation from which kits it is better to start collecting tin kit, then medium and large? I guess, it is possible to buy some good kit, then complete with items you like, but at the same time that ready-to-buy kit had most essentials and of a good quality?
Another question: it is not better to keep the kit spread around your body instead of keeping in one box? If you lose the box you will lose everything, not if it is spread in your pockets (unless you lose your clothes).

My first kit was a personal survival kit, so that I would have gear on me in the event of and if you are looking for a premade personal survival kit, I think equipped to survive has about the best one going. It's very well thought out and relatively inexpensive.

You should also start adding to your emergency survival kit or Bug Out Bag (BOB). Depending on your personal field experience, you will want cutting tools like knives, saws, axes, etc., shelter, water purification, good boots, good field ready clothing, good firestarting capabilities, etc. Buy the best gear you can afford. Even if you only buy one of the expensive items each payday or whatever. Do your homework and find through reading on this forum and others what others feel the best gear is for a given environment and go from there.
 
I would just like to congratulate forum members on the quality of your responses to bcampos query. A favourite subject of mine, and I have nothing to add that hasn't already been said.

Well thought out, detailed and reasoned.

Well done. If we still had chiclets, I would be tossing a few around today.:thumbup: :thumbup:
 
Again most of my altoid kit has already been mentioned. One thing to think of besides just a fish hook and some sinkers is buying some dry flies. They are hard to get into the water because you cannot use a sinker but in a small stream you can guide it out. That way you don't need to find bait.
 
I have a small kit. its half the size of an altoids tin and just barely holds the smallest sak going corner to corner.
i have a sak(this one has extra tools but is the smallest size made)
some saftey wire
a spark light and tender
3 lead splitshot
10 hooks 5 long shank 5 trout
small rubber lure
fishing line
and its wrapped in 4 or 5 wraps of duct tape to water proof it and for emergency bandages.
it is not noticable in your pocket at all. I did however notice a small altoids tin that looked to be just long enough for a small sak and a few things. but it was thinner than my kit.
 
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