Survival knife- best for the money, no laughs!

I'd buy the Fish Splitter, and soaking and throwing it would not be a problem. However since it would very likely dig into any concrete walls, how about instead I just throw it up a set distance and have it hit pavement?

-Cliff
 
sounds good to me!

Just to test toughness. What If you dropped your survival knife from a distance how would it hold up?

I think that is a valid test.

Thanks Cliff

 
How the blades would hold up to drops would depend mainly on the mass and the tip profile. For example as the tip on the Fish Splitter is upturned, it would quite likely hit not on the point but under it and thus the impact pressure would be much less than on a profile which would tend to take point impacts such as the Brend #2.

I have dropped a lot of blades from about 6' or so, and have not seen any significant damage (some minor tip or edge impacting). I also throw a lot of them and hit things other than the target without serious harm. For example, a few days ago I threw one of the prototypes from P.J. Turner :

http://www.bladeforums.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/002177.html

at a piece of pressboard and used too much force. It went through up to the handle and the blade scraped along the kitchen sink that was behind the pressboard. The end result was a flattening of the edge (from memory) to roughly 0.01" in depth. Didn't chip it either, just mashed it over which is fairly impressive.

Anyway, it depends on just how hard you are throwing and how hard the object you are hitting, but in general, you should have to put a fair amount of force into a throw at concrete or similar to functionally damage a blade (not the handle) that is supposed to be suitable for extended periods of heavy wood chopping and the like.

-Cliff


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Those folders are wild, they look really interesting.

I think your testing is sound.


I am not into destruction of knives but I think it is important to test them hard so in a situation you don't have to worry about pushing them.


I guess that marine saying "sweat hard during traing and bleed less in combat" goes for knives as well.
 
Chris :

Those folders are wild, they look really interesting.

They have the ability of allowing a medium sized fixed blade to increase its reach and balance to that of a 9-10" large camp bowie class blade. It is a very nice idea for a single blade user. Note that the weight and ease of carrying is the same of course as a regular medium sized fixed blade.

I have been using them for the past while and they are working quite well. Mainly chopping and slicing up wood, with some splitting, prying digging and lighter cutting like cordage thrown in. I have even used them in the kitchen, this is probably the area where the biggest weakness is significant as the thicker grind makes working with thicker vegetables difficult.

I am not into destruction of knives but I think it is important to test them hard so in a situation you don't have to worry about pushing them.

Breaking a blade to see how and when it fails is fairly important for a lot of reasons not just specific to that blade. Of course you should have the understanding with the maker that this is the intention. It is something that the maker could do themselves and many do which is appreciated by all those who they share it with.

The main problem with a makers own testing is that of course the same as with any type of evaluation. Are you going to put absolute faith in what someone says about the product that they are selling? Have you ever seen a company test their product against another and publish the results which show that they are selling an inferior product? Obviously not.

Of course a deliberate faulting is not the same as a break that happens during normal use or a simulation of such. There is not reason not to use a blade in this manner, and it is actually very irresponsible if you don't. Both for you and the people who you may lend your blades to.

Bottom line in any review you should have a decent line of communication with the maker. This is not to say that you let them dictate the review process as it should be a fairly standard procedure. However you should have their opinion on methods of sharpening, techniques for use and necessary steps to keep the blade maintained to make sure that you cover the areas in which they feel the blade is best suited for and used in the manner that they feel is optimal.

There are lots of makers that encourage open reviews and working with them can be a very valuable experience as the sharing of information goes both ways. Phil Wilson, Jerry Busse, Ed Schott, P.J. Turner, the guys from Strider, and Lynn Griffith are among the best in this area that I have worked with. There are other guys like R.J. Martin that are excellent in this area as well but I have not had as of yet the experience of using their blades.

-Cliff
 
I went ahead and got one of these Fish Splitters, and it's great. Thanks for letting me know about this knife, Chrisaloia. What a tremendous blade! Thanks Cliff for the link and for lettimg me know about Memphis Net & Twine Co.
 
Volvi

I am glad to know you got one. One thing I did was file a sub hilt finger guard in this way my hand feels more comfortable. If you do any camping or yard chores let me know more of what you think. we can start a dexter russel fishsplitter club
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we use it for everything but fishsplitting.

 
I have a friend that liked my Fishsplitter a lot, so I gave it to him. Before doing so, I sharpened it because it didn't arrive shaving sharp. Boy was it easy to sharpen! Takes a great razor edge without much trouble at all. Took a lot less time than I thought it would. He's going to use it as a machete/camp knife. Well, I guess I better get another one
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. Didn't get a chance to use the other one, but I'm looking forward to using the next one - they are meant to be used, and used hard.
 
It me took a few swipes on a norton stone to bring it back.

I think the steel is really good.

after the holidays I think I am gonna have scott hendryx make his kydex survival sheath for it. then that will be my camp knife. It is my main home defennse knife I keep beside my bed.


 
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