SURVIVAL KNIFE RECOMMENDATION HELP !!!!!!!!!

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Hello group,

I need to purchase a "survival" knife for my "Bug-Out-Bag" can you make some suggestions.

Knife Criteria;

1) Fixed Blade Knife

2) High Quality Steel

3) Approximate blade length six to seven inches

4) Price is no object.

Please no Bowie knife suggestions, they are just to big for my needs, thx.

Thank you in advance for your responses.

Best regards

xxxx
 
Tops Anaconda, Fire Strike, Steel Eagle
Mission MPK in A-2 or Titaniun
Fallkniven A-1
hope this helps
 
TOPS Steel Eagle, TOPS Anaconda TOPS Firestrike. If you are looking for a good price on the TOPS line, drop me an email. You can visit TOPS' site on my website. I think they would definately suit your needs. Also try the Fallkniven line, they are excellent.

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Louis Buccellato
http://www.themartialway.com



[This message has been edited by TheMartialWay (edited 16 October 1999).]
 
Welcome aboard!
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The best knife choice will depends on how you intend to use it. The knife is just part of your tool kit, and one of the tools your party will have.

Tell us a little bit more about your survival scenario.
1) How long is the survival exercise
2) Whats the terrain like
3) What type of weather (winter, summer)
4) Is the knife to be used primarily as a tool
5) Is the knife to be used primarily in tool and shelter building
6) Is the knife to be used in food preparation
7) What other cutting tools are in your "bugout bag"

There is no one best all around knife. If there were we would all be carrying the same thing. What you will get is a knife that represents a series of tradeoffs and compromises, So lets first discuss your plans and then select the tools to help you get there.


 
I'd go with CRK Project I. Simple, virtually indestructable, and a great design.

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For less than $100 you can get a Fallkniven A-1 or a Kabar Next Generation fighter. (Money is an object to me) I'm currently eyeing one of these myself, but can't make up my mind. I can't justify the price of more than double that for some of the other selections listed above.
 
In the production knife world, I'd recommend the semi-custom Chris Reeve Project 1 for a blade length like you seek. This knife is made of a single piece of tool steel and is very rugged.

If you prefer stainless steel, then the Fallkniven A1 is an outstanding product in every respect. It's under $100 and yet performs with the best of them. It features a thick, rugged VG-10 steel blade. I would choose the A1 over any knife I've dealt with priced between it and the Project 1.
It would be my second choice regardless of cost among production knives of this size.

I'd recommend staying away from titanium bladed knives, incidentally. Titanium is serious compromise as a blade material designed for applications where anti-magnetic properties are critical. Take care.

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Fred
Knife Outlet
www.knifeoutlet.com

 
Get a Next Generation model like the original. I have one with a kydex sheath and I couldnt ask for a better knife. It keeps a wicked edge and hacks like crazy.
 
For a "bug-out-bag"... and "price is no object"?!

I like to try out the hippest and best reputed knives as much as anyone, but if it's for a "bug-out-bag" I assume that means that it may not be *seen* for a helluva long time, and possibly never used.

Price may be no object, but time probably is. I have an order in for a Mad Dog ATAK2, 8 months and counting. Even if you really do have $350 to burn, why spend it on something you plan to throw in the trunk or stash in the garage? Some of the other knives mentioned may take a while to get, too.

If $$ really doesn't matter, the Fallkniven A1 has been well reviewed by many and is nearly as low-maintenance as it gets, since it's "stainless." But again, for a "bug-out-bag," why not settle for an Ontario, or Cold Steel SRK, or (as mentioned) a Ka-bar? They're all proven and will do fine for just about any "survival" situation. If any of these corrode significantly due to neglect (i.e., 2 yrs later: "hmm... maybe I should check on my bug-out-bag"), at least it'll be *immediately* replaceable for what should be pocket change for you.

(Or, hell, if money *really* doesn't matter, can you buy me a Busse Steel Heart 2?)
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Glen

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I feel that the items in your bug-out bag should be of the best quality. After all, the contents are designed to be used when the situation is exigent and critical. I sure as heck don't want anything but the best in my hand if the stuff has hit the fan.

I would also suggest the Mad Dog ATAK2. I have several, and have given one of my children one. When I found that Bald1's son, Erich, was headed for overseas deployment, as a Navy Corpsman, assigned to the USMC, and had only been given some small knives by his dad, I sent him an ATAK2. He has raved about it.

Kevin (Mad Dog) shapes all of the handles by hand, and gladly accomodates different hand sizes/shapes at no extra charge. Just send him an outline of your hand.

Hope this helps, Walt
 
(XXXX and I have exchaged E-mails per my questions above. I have reprinted a portion of my response below for comment)


Why all the questions?

As you look through many of the treads on the forum you will notice that the most productive ones start out by establishing a clear set of parameters. Posing an open ended question such as "what's the best survival knife?" will quick deteriorate to generate a long list of popular knives which may or may not be suitable for your application. The underlying issue involves a review of your strategy and tactics as much as it does any of the individual tools.

So what is survival?

Ideally, if I ever found myself in a situation which deprives me of my home or livelihood, I would like to have access to a large amount of funds, a five start hotel, and plenty of good company (or perhaps at least a Winnebago with a nice stock of goodies). My first priority would be to reestablish order: build a new home, find a new job, form a new business, join another community. I'll like to think the same is true for most of us in any "survival" situation.

Unfortunately, sometimes when we get ourselves into trouble, we do so without the benefit of all these goodies. Its precisely, for these conditions that we will need to prepare ourselves if we are going to get through with a reasonable degree of comfort and safety.

Where to begin?

Begin with a strategy. What are the conditions of the scenario? Some years ago, when I use to enjoy myself as a private pilot, I made it a point to carry a Gerber BMF knife (just happen to have one), 100M of paracord, a small flashlight, a vitorionox SAK, and a cell phone (full charged but turned off) in my flight bag. With a Spyderco knife, and another small flashlight on my person (usually on my belt). I also had a small bicycle type water bottle and a couple of candy bars, and a small first aid kit. The whole package totaled about 10 lbs including the flight stuff.

The strategy was simple, in the event of an emergency landing my best tactic would be to sit tight and wait with the aircraft. South Florida has a number of remote areas, but the area is dense enough that I am confident that help would have been on hand within a few hours. Probably the cell phone would have been the most critical item in the package; either to summon help (if I were fortunate enough to have coverage) or to help resolve the myriad of logistical and NTSB issues afterwards. The Spyderco (usually the Police model) would be there to help me get out of the plane, The SAK would provide number of miscellaneous and helpful tools, and the BMF would be there in case we needed to do some heavy cutting. Fortunately, the situation never came up.

Now if the scenario would have involved a more remote area I would probably have replaced the cellular with a fire starter and flares. Then depending on the situation I would have added other useful clothing and materials to enable me to cope with the elements for a set period of time.

So what are the key considerations?

To me this always comes down to:
1) How long are you going to be there
2) What do you need to cope with
3) How do you get out

If hiking is an element then you will need a knife that is light enough to permit you to hike with a reasonable degree of comfort; and, also a knife that includes a reasonably safe and secure sheath.

If you are going to need to build shelter such as a lean too or snow shelter, you will need a good size camp knife (about 6" + blade length) to give you a reasonable ability to cut 1" poles or work snow.

If its a short hike to safety and you are not going to need a shelter, then go with a lighter more portable folding knife.

Final thoughts

Whatever the situation, buy a reasonable knife. Spend enough money so that you don't end up with something that will fail on you; but, not so much money that you will be distracted by worrying about the new smudge on your knife (there will be far more important things to worry about).

One of Coldsteel's Ranger or SRK models, a WWII MKII, or something similar would probably work well.



[This message has been edited by not2sharp (edited 17 October 1999).]
 
xxxx,

(BTW is that 4 x for the beaver felt in your 10 gallon hat
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Doc Welch is right about my son. He loves that ATAK2 and the Marine Captain that leads his outfit usually carries an ATAK as well.

Others to consider in addition to the many mentioned thusfar include Mission's MPKS in A2, the venerable Ek M5 bowie, a HI Gelbu Special khukri, any of the larger Busse blades, a Brend big blade, the Simonich Nordooh or his 10" camp knife, or even a Carbon V CS Trailmaster.

There's so much to choose from that it'd be hard to miss here.

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[This message has been edited by bald1 (edited 17 October 1999).]
 
1. Jones Knives Model 23
2. Simonich Talonite Cetan
3. Busse Infi Badger Attack
4. Livesay Air Assault
5. Fallkniven A-1
6. Fallkniven F-1
7. Cold Steel SRK
8. Busse Basic 7
9. Busse Basic 5
0. SAK Rucksack


[This message has been edited by Hansen (edited 17 October 1999).]
 
I like the Ka-Bar Next Generation. Either that or the Chris Reeve Project are solid choices. And if price is no matter, Chris Reeve gets the edge on havign a unscewable handle to stick some matches in or something
 
I don't get it!

For the last several weeks, all the rave has been over the Busse Basic's. The greatest thing to ever happen tho the knife world.

Now, after all that only one of the above responses has the Busses for a pick.

What gives?

 
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