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Survival Knife: Saw or no Saw?

Discussion in 'General Knife Discussion' started by FerFAL, Nov 25, 2020.

  1. 000Robert

    000Robert Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 28, 2020
    No saw.
     
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  2. marcinek

    marcinek

    Jan 9, 2007
    Heck, for the price of a Jungle King, you cold get a Vic Super Tinker, a Tram 14 inch machete, a Silky PocketBoy folding saw, and Cold Steel SRK AND have about 50 bucks left for survival beer and tactical pizza.
     
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  3. not2sharp

    not2sharp Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 29, 1999
    IIRC the original saw back on the First Blood knife was added for cinematic effect. They thought that the knife looked more interesting on film that way. It was never really designed as a functional feature.

    n2s
     
  4. Wurger190

    Wurger190 Basic Member Basic Member

    501
    Jul 5, 2014
    Mauser pioneer bayonet had one in 1898 before it was cool.
     
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  5. not2sharp

    not2sharp Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 29, 1999
    I am always down for a tactical pizza.

    n2s
    The saw back go back to at least the 1823 Russian pioneer short sword and were common on bayonet and artillery sidearms. But, they were intended as specialized tools to help with battlefield obstacles. They were also much longer.

    n2s
     
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  6. Mitchell Knives

    Mitchell Knives Knifemaker Moderator

    May 21, 2000
    No saw backs. A saw should be a completely separate tool.

    If you break your knife, you've lost one tool. If you break your combination knife/saw, you've lost two tools.
     
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  7. jideta

    jideta Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 8, 2020
    Apparently a lot of folks can't or don't bother to read.
    The double serrations on that Aitor is an excellent saw.
    I would rather use the saw than attempt to hack at something and risk separating the blade from the handle.
    As some have said, most saws, like the Rambo knife are mostly aesthetic and worthless.
    I say saw, if like the double row of serrations Aitor one.
     
  8. marcinek

    marcinek

    Jan 9, 2007
    Really?
     
  9. not2sharp

    not2sharp Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 29, 1999
    Functional sawteeth help, but you are still trying to make a 1/4” slot through lumber. Why do you suppose those carpenter saws were thin?

    n2s
     
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  10. jideta

    jideta Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 8, 2020
    Better than no saw I say.
     
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  11. FerFAL

    FerFAL

    163
    Aug 15, 2007
    But isnt a mediocre saw better than no saw? The one in my Junlge King II is surprisingly good for its size, id rather have it than not have it. Sure, a dedicated folding saw is better, but what if I dont have it and all I have is my survival knife? The company (Aitor) has saws in most of their survival models such as JK and Oso wihte and Black. Im still undecided regarding going with a saw spine or not. They do a good job with thier saws in their knives.
     
  12. not2sharp

    not2sharp Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 29, 1999
    Yes, but you would be happier with the Saw blade on your SAK.

    n2s
     
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  13. eveled

    eveled Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 11, 2016
    It’s not better if it causes even a minor wound that gets infected. I think the saws are dangerous.
     
  14. eveled

    eveled Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 11, 2016
    Or even a cable saw.
     
  15. The Mastiff

    The Mastiff Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 21, 2006
    No saws for me. I haven't found one that worked well. When I'm in my car I have pioneer tools in the trunk as well as gear for emergencies for the area I'm traveling to. I don't like to compromise with items that I may have to rely on.
     
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  16. GIRLYmann

    GIRLYmann

    Nov 7, 2005
    in our time (ok, close to 40 years ago),
    the saw back gained sudden popularity because of the movies.
    even though not everyone
    would have had a use for a saw;
    and yet, fad decided that everyone just
    had to have one because it was
    the "in" thing or design feature to have.
    it reasons that having a saw back
    would give the user an additional tool
    for use in a survival situation.
    it seemed like a great two-in-one (sometimes more) for a "just in case" idea.
    that was until, when it turned out that most
    saws (or at least the sawteeth design put
    on most sawbacks) didn't quite cut it...
    as mentioned in a couple of post above,
    a saw is most useful in wooded terrain
    and little else. and it has to be of a certain
    width and length to effectively saw anything.
    an axe would be better not that building
    log cabins are going to be an everyday
    survival priority.
    my vote goes to pocket saws rather than
    sawback knives. and the multitool sawblade tool for "emergency" survival pocket carry.
    one the otherhand, if you're dying on
    social media, i have a stange feeling
    that the "likes" count could jump or
    turn out better if one post pictures of sawback knives :)
    alas the true mystical power of the
    sawback knife is its uncanny abilitity
    to sway and mesmerize public opinion.
     
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  17. Skar

    Skar

    273
    Mar 24, 2020
    No saw.
     
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  18. Bigfattyt

    Bigfattyt Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 23, 2007
    Busse has released a Battle Saw that looks fantastic. Also a Swamp Rat with a saw back id like to try.

    Im not a huge fan of hollow handle knives these days.

    I prefer a chopper and leave the sawing to my Silky Saw Zubat. Light and cuts with aggressive speed.

    I also typically have a Leatherman with a small saw.
     
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  19. HopalongCassidy

    HopalongCassidy

    111
    Sep 22, 2019
    Separate saw.
     
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  20. onewing

    onewing

    27
    Apr 2, 2013
    The only knife I've seen with a decent saw on a fixed blade was the SOG Team Leader, but the handle wasn't particularly well shaped for using the knife backwards. I had one, the saw worked fine but yes not being able to apply pressure to the spine is a limitation, its also nasty on sheaths.

    You'd be better off looking at saws on folding knives like Schrades 97OT, Mercury and FOX of Italy makes a few and the variety of SAK's
     
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