SURVIVAL Question---FIXED vs FOLDER--Your opinion and WHY??

Shotgun said:
Well I wouldn't choose a knife if I had to choose 1 edged tool but to play along I can see some instances occuring in an urban survival situation where a folder would be better. Mostly this revolves around other people and how they'll react to a fixed blade. A case peanut is better than a confiscated fixed blade.
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Give me an example of a survival situation where you would care what others would think...

If my butt was on the line--what others would think would be of no concern to me
 
WILLIAM.M said:
Give me an example of a survival situation where you would care what others would think...

If my butt was on the line--what others would think would be of no concern to me
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To be perfectly honest I think anyone who thinks they're going to go it alone is silly and the idea based in fantasy. I'll trade even the nicest and greatest of knives for a group of people all working toward the same goal any day of the week.

I also think the scenario you put forth is flawed. What a person chooses to carry when you tell them "You're getting put into a survival situation" is going to be different then what a person chooses to carry on a day hike that turns into a survival situation.
 
TheGame said:
Fixed. No moving parts to fail, and it is stronger by design anyway. If I had to rely on a knife, I rather it be as strong as possible and not be able to move around a pivot.
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Honestly can't say it any better, so ^ ditto to that.
 
If somehow concealment was paramount, first and foremost, then a folder would of course be preferable. But it would be a pretty hypothetical situation. Ease of carry and concealment are the only things I can think of where a folder beats a fixed blade.
 
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I guess my choice would be based on my other gear. If I did not have a backpack, belt, or sheath, I suppose a folder would be that much easier to tote around in a pocket. Having both hands free and the extra mobility could be a deciding factor...
 
Rprecision said:
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109 posts after 3 years of registration and this is how you chose to communicate to the community? Sorry man, but I don't see how this is all that done to death. Sure its an only one scenario, but Dr. Bill only used the case study to stimulate a fixed vs. folder discussion. (Of course, that didn't prevent me from giving the Doc a hard time either :D)....
 
kgd said:
109 posts after 3 years of registration and this is how you chose to communicate to the community? Sorry man, but I don't see how this is all that done to death. Sure its an only one scenario, but Dr. Bill only used the case study to stimulate a fixed vs. folder discussion. (Of course, that didn't prevent me from giving the Doc a hard time either :D)....
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Sorry, although your 8,914 posts in 4 years requires a standing ovation, you’re not a gold member and therefore you have not reached an elder status in this artificial online community. You sir are not allowed to communicate to the community is such a manner, at such a time, in such a place. Oh wait………..yeah I still don’t care !

I didn’t make my post to belittle the OP.

I was simply bringing some levity……..

Breathe…this in now way means you cant build a shopping mall with your Swiss Army Knife

All is still well
 
Folder. Because that is most likely what I would have on me. I choose to carry a folder EDC, and a survival situation can happen at any time. I know this, and still choose a folder.
 
I would pic the magically appearing fixed blade over the magically appearing folder if I was ever spontaneously caught in a mysteriously magical survival situation.
 
If you are talking Buck 110 vs Buck 119 then the Buck 119 is superior except in cases where concealment is important. If you are talking any folder vs a fixed blade I think a SAK with an awl, saw and scissors could be more useful. Taking slivers out with the tweezers or opening a can or bottle or emergency repairs on clothing using the awl would be faster with the SAK than a fixed blade.
 
I think it's more dependent on the situation than just the choice. Most would easily choose a fixed blade if given the choice, but I could better understand situations (pre-survival) where one would choose a folder over a fixed blade; rock climbing, mountain biking, business trip, sky diving, cross country running, sun bathing in the nude way up the creek on top of your kayak, etc. That would have been my question…what activities would force you to choose a folder over a fixed blade? If I can’t have a fixed blade on my person, it wouldn’t be too far away…either in a pack, vehicle, etc. I will say that I always have a folder on my person unless traveling via air or visiting secure areas where knives are restricted.

ROCK6
 
ROCK6 said:
I think it's more dependent on the situation than just the choice. Most would easily choose a fixed blade if given the choice, but I could better understand situations (pre-survival) where one would choose a folder over a fixed blade; rock climbing, mountain biking, business trip, sky diving, cross country running, sun bathing in the nude way up the creek on top of your kayak, etc. That would have been my question…what activities would force you to choose a folder over a fixed blade? If I can’t have a fixed blade on my person, it wouldn’t be too far away…either in a pack, vehicle, etc. I will say that I always have a folder on my person unless traveling via air or visiting secure areas where knives are restricted.

ROCK6
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Great Reply Bro(as always)

I start these questions to get people to examine their choices

Some can come with with excellent replies---

The Rock Climbing example you listed above is one where I think one would almost be forced(for lack of a better word) to carry a folding knife-over a fixed.

Again--GREAT reply.
 
Shotgun said:
To be perfectly honest I think anyone who thinks they're going to go it alone is silly and the idea based in fantasy. I'll trade even the nicest and greatest of knives for a group of people all working toward the same goal any day of the week.

I also think the scenario you put forth is flawed. What a person chooses to carry when you tell them "You're getting put into a survival situation" is going to be different then what a person chooses to carry on a day hike that turns into a survival situation.
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I never said you were alone--I said the situation was up to you.

ALL OF THE EXAMPLES I LISTED COULD YOU COULD BE ALONE OR WITH A GROUP

Lost in the woods,car broke down in the desert,back packing and get injured,small plane crash,etc--the situation is up to you.

You might be willing to trade all your knives for a group of people--but if you are ALONE is that a choice at all???

Also--you are working on the assumption that those extra people will HELP.

Most people in a survival situation with no training will panic and make the problem worse.

I do not work in fantasy-this was an honest question to get people to think.

If I asked a Flawed question as you stated--please educate me on how I should have stated the Opening Question better.


Sincerely

Dr.Bill
 
You have a choice, this or that but not those? Everyday, for the most part I have a Victorinox Trekker in my pocket, blade and saw and other things. very useful. I have it with me. Now there has been some bad weather and say you go in the store before you head out to do whatever and storm come through and your big ole pig sticker you left back in you vehicle under the seat so you would not draw attention,

Dr Bill do you have one of your big old Seigle's strap on your leg while in the office? If it ain't with you it ain't no good.

And ONE BLADE? so someone With their Stockman 3 blade pocket knife wouldn't work?

Someone else said . better to have something than nothing.

If I was in the middle of no where and had nothing and came across a T.V. miracle blade paring knife I would not leave it behind.

But yet the good doctor make us think.
 
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