Survive! knives F1 (folder!)

Dangerously said:
If I was in the market for a folding bushcrafter, which is an odd duck of a knife niche, I’d go with a battle horse tree frog.

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Ditto.
 
bubbaskyjacker said:
I like the looks of survive fixed blade, but this - meh.... not great , not bad.

Where can we start a thread to bash survive ? It makes us feel better who have knives on order. I do have to say my 5.1 was a beautiful knife.
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I'll show up to that party lol
I am astonished they have back orders for years and they launched a folder.... unbelievable. No thanks, the wannabe rotolock thingy changes nothing it is still a framelock with a gimmick. Well done.
 
vanadium said:
I've never heard of Survive! before this thread, but Millit is world-class. If they're producing the knife it will surely be quality, right? Thoughts?
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The problem is that millit is also working with them on their other knives that are on prepaid back order for over 3 years.

Halfneck said:
I'd be hard pressed to throw any money at any product with their name on it. I just hope it doesn't drag Millit down.
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For me they already have.

Mo2 said:
If it's not delta 3v no thanks.
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That is a big swing and a miss. They had a chance to make something truly unique and not seen much in the folding knife market.

Mo2 said:
At least the lock won't fail like a zt.
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There is no need for this comment in this thread. Take your zt bashing somewhere else. And you don't know if this knife's lock will fail or not.
 
vanadium said:
Hey, so I bugged the admins to re-open the thread, for this reason only:

Millit just announced on IG that they'll be manufacturing the knife. Their statement:

We have always been a fan of being part of over the top, unique knives! Unique referring to quality and/ or innovation. Since the day @SurviveKnives moved to Boise, and integrated themselves into our shop, Guy talked about wanting to introduce a folding knife into their line. With our experience, and ability to make one, he began the journey of designing something simply exquisite. For months he scrutinized over ever detail, leaned on us and for our thoughts and abilities to help contribute to a truly incredible folding knife design. We said 2019 was gonna be big, and @SurviveKnives F1 folder is part of the badass lineup we have. We are way excited to be the manufacturer of this knife!!​

I've never heard of Survive! before this thread, but Millit is world-class. If they're producing the knife it will surely be quality, right? Thoughts?
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I wouldn't be at all surprised if the build quality is very high, but well built, drop point, titanium framelock folders are literally everywhere. Survive aside, what sells this knife? A secondary lock? I care more about Spice Girls gossip than I do about that, and I can't name the Spice Girls. The maternity handle? It doesn't look ergonomically horrible, but a bulge where I want to really squeeze and put pressure during difficult cuts is counterintuitive, at best, not to mention pretty unattractive.

This knives has ten thousand competitors, most of which aren't weighed down by the baggage that Survive brings.

Maybe you're not excited by it, but if you are, I sincerely ask what's got you excited about it? No judgement, just wondering what you're getting here that you couldn't get a dozen other places.
 
The handle swell seems odd, like maybe too much, hard to tell for sure, so who will be the first to do a head to head review of this one vs Koster folder o_O
 
My view of this folder has nothing to do with my opinion with Survive as a company. I hope those waiting on their knives receive them quickly. Now, this folder....The blade profile doesn’t do much for me. The saber grind is to low for my liking on a folder. While I like S90v, this steel will scare some off. Many see this steel as a chore to sharpen. Delta 3v would have been a perfect choice for this folder.
 
I'm with DJC72 DJC72 - this needs to be 3V with the delta heat treat, of which S!K are one of 3 folks able to use that.

Better still will be if Guy does what he does best, which is to dial up some fantastic heat treat on a NEW steel... say Vanax or one of the new nitrogen-based steels. Then you have my attention.
 
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DJC72 said:
My view of this folder has nothing to do with my opinion with Survive as a company. I hope those waiting on their knives receive them quickly. Now, this folder....The blade profile doesn’t do much for me. The saber grind is to low for my liking on a folder. While I like S90v, this steel will scare some off. Many see this steel as a chore to sharpen. Delta 3v would have been a perfect choice for this folder.
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I don't necessarily agree that 3V would be perfect, but it would go a long way towards setting this folder apart from the crowd. As is, it just seems like a, "Me too!" knife from a shady source.
 
Nostalgia for the classic Survive design? It looks wide, no deep carry pocket clip, the lock prevents moving the pocket clip for tip down carry. It's just a CGI but it looks like a lot of blade and possibly heavy.

The lock seems like a solution in search of a problem. The pivot is hallowed ground. The simpler the better and I don't like the extra parts on the pivot.

With the taint and compared to the recent Laconico Massdrop offering No. You won't sell that by name and the design doesn't seem innovative or impressive.
 
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I didn't see a picture of the front side, just the lock. I wonder what they have in mind for a pattern or texture there. Based on the similar design to their fixed blades, I wouldn't be surprised to see some resemblance to the microtexture and torx screws on the front.
 
Quiet said:
My thoughts are, they're going to want the money now, but you'll see the knife in four years or so (despite being told it'd be in your hands in 90 days).
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Sounds about right.... Don't care if it is interesting or not. They are off my consideration list for anything they make.
 
As many have pointed out, it would appear that it does not actually exist in anything but a rendering (some could *cough* say that about many of their products *cough*)... so it is all very theoretical just now, I would want to know more about the "lock" function and handle one before I offered thoughts on it as a knife. If maybe they ALL go to Blade 2019 so people could actually see one in existence....or make them and have a magical process where you order pay and your already made knife is shipped immediately.

That said...not a single $ from me...
 
SpySmasher said:
The announcement of this knife was the last straw for me as far as Millit goes.

Just ... brazen.
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Yup. Doing work and sharing space with a known scammer is one thing (not good). But to then put out the statement that you are making a new knife for them that they have been working on while customers wait for knives over due by three years is just shameful.

Shady at best.
 
maybe they should focus on finishing orders from 5+ years ago when they took everyone's money.
 
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