Sidewinder, perhaps you can tell me what is so horrible about a minivan. I am on my second, the first, a 1989 Turbo-Voyager with stick shift, gave me 150,000 miles of great driving all over the Eastern half of the US. I bought it to carry my family around and to take Boy Scouts on outings where they wouldn't have to ride with their knees up around their ears, and it worked wonderfully well. I now have a 3.0 V-6 Caravan and it is the MOST wonderful car for Interstate trips. Now, I do not run around in sports car country any longer, as I have arthritis and cannot fit such vehicles, but I have owned them and driven a number of them, and the Caravan is still one of the more pleasant touring type vehicles around. I guess that I am getting old and soft, but the Interstates, where most of the touring type driving is done, are too damned boring for anything but switching on the a/c, setting the cruise control, and putting a tape on the player, my preference being bagpipes and/or Celtic harp.