Swamp Rats and Glocks

mathman

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Are Swamp Rat Kinves the Glock of the knife world?

For those who are familiar with Glocks and Swamp Rats, you probably know what I mean.
 
Glock: Ugly, utilitarian but gets the job done as well or better than the competition.

Swamp Rat: The knife equivalent.

This is the usual use of "The Glock of the (fill in the blank)"

Mark
 
I'm not necessarily saying that the Swamp Rats are ugly, but there are better looking knives out there...but from what I hear, few compare in the performance category...kind of like Glocks, right?

I didn't mean anything bad by it, but it just occurred to me that the two are kind of similar in that way...IMHO.
 
I find glocks really cool looking - something about the minimalism that attracts me. As for SRK's, you must be talking about the ones that resemble the Busse Basics. I find these awesome too. All in the eyes, I guess:)
 
Mark Schmitt said:
Glock: Ugly, utilitarian but gets the job done as well or better than the competition.
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While I do not own a Glock, I find them beautiful in their simplicity and "function-above-all" philosophy.

One thing that doesn't work for me in this comparison is the price. Glocks are priced extremely reasonably, kind of like Beckers or Ka-Bars. Swamp Rats are more in the Kimber category. Busse would fit in with Les Baer or Wilson Combat. :)
 
hwyhobo said:
While I do not own a Glock, I find them beautiful in their simplicity and "function-above-all" philosophy.

One thing that doesn't work for me in this comparison is the price. Glocks are priced extremely reasonably, kind of like Beckers or Ka-Bars. Swamp Rats are more in the Kimber category. Busse would fit in with Les Baer or Wilson Combat. :)
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Not even close.
If you are comparing prices- maybe Ruger & Taurus would be in the cheap category.
glocks arent cheap.
Nor are Swamp Rats expensive.
 
Rat Finkenstein said:
Not even close.
If you are comparing prices- maybe Ruger & Taurus would be in the cheap category.
glocks arent cheap.
Nor are Swamp Rats expensive.
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Swamp Rats are 2+ times the cost of an equivalent Becker (Camp Rat to BK7). Kimber is 2+ times the cost of a Glock. Wilson Combat is 2 times the cost of a Kimber. Busse is 2 times the cost of a Swamp Rat. My comparison stands. In fact, it stands perfectly. I have no idea where you got the "not even close" from.

Ruger and Taurus are not that much cheaper than Glocks, maybe 30%.
 
hwyhobo said:
Swamp Rats are 2+ times the cost of an equivalent Becker (Camp Rat to BK7). Kimber is 2+ times the cost of a Glock. Wilson Combat is 2 times the cost of a Kimber. Busse is 2 times the cost of a Swamp Rat. My comparison stands. In fact, it stands perfectly. I have no idea where you got the "not even close" from.

Ruger and Taurus are not that much cheaper than Glocks, maybe 30%.
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that comparison stands, but only in your head.

My statement is fact- Glocks arent "cheap" guns. Swamp Rats arent "expensive" knives.
 
Glocks used to be cheap before the company realized that they could sell them for twice what they are worth...maybe Swamp Rat Knives will follow suit...it remains to be seen.
 
I think its a great comparison. 1.Even though they are both less expensive than their competitors... they fuction as well if not better. 2.They are both no frills, get the job done and beg for more useage!! 3.They are both chunky and all black, and beautiful only those who understand and appreciate them.4.They are both impossible to destroy and can provide years and years of service.5. You cant compare them to "cheaper" knives or guns, it just doesnt match up, you are forced to compare these two with the expensive big boys due to their reputation.
 
I dont think its a good comparison. Two reasons: I love my Swamp Rat. I dont like my Glock. :D Give me a CZ 75 IPSC Standard....
 
If you don't like your Glock, I'll take it off your hands. I love Glocks. I don't know why people would think they're ugly, I love the way they look. Great pricing, great shooting, high capacity, loads of fun. Swamp Rat has some pretty designs that catch my eye the same way, and the prices are amazing for what you get. Well, their knives that look like the Busse Basics I think are butt fugly, but...
 
I think the Spyderco Delica is more like the "Glock of the knife world" than the Swamp Rat:

Not the prettiest but built to perform, and both have plenty of plastic!


And since we're on the subject...
I think that the Buck 110 is the AK-47 of the knife world:

Not that well balanced, heavy metal and wood, but it just keeps on going!


Cheers,
Allen.
 
love4steel,

I'm glad someone sees it the way that I do!

I dont think its a good comparison. Two reasons: I love my Swamp Rat. I dont like my Glock.
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I actually like Swamp Rats and don't like Glocks as well...but I still think it's a good comparison.
 
Rat Finkenstein said:
that comparison stands, but only in your head.
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You know, being rude doesn't make you right.

My statement is fact- Glocks arent "cheap" guns. Swamp Rats arent "expensive" knives.
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You were responding to my post. In that post I didn't say they were "cheap" guns (who are you quoting? yourself?). Neither did I say Swamp Rats were "expensive". I compared their relative prices. That comaprison was accurate. Re-read my original post.
 
i liken swamp rat to a production "custom" 1911 from springfield or kimber. pretty expensive mass produced gun but works stellar. same with the rats. busses are like true custom 1911's. the best on earth but you pay for what you get!
 
hwyhobo said:
... priced extremely reasonably, kind of like Beckers or Ka-Bars. Swamp Rats are more ....
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Give examples of similar knives with tool steel blades with differential hardening with the level of quality control (see the microcrack testing and full slow and deep cryo for just two example) and pure performance demonstrated live and supported by the straightforward warrenty, not to mention the constant R&D and evolution of designs. Considering what you get, the price is more than reasonable.

There is more than just straight based cost, I consider the price of Phil Wilson's knives for example to be more than reasonable because the amount of time and effort he puts into developing them is extreme. Everytime he tries a new steel he regrinds the blade geometry to find the optimal performance, not to mention works the hardening over and over to find the toughness/wear resistance best compromise.

But then again I know people who will look at the new Spyderco Endura's and consider them extremely expensive.

-Cliff
 
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