Well, I guess I should have looked at Ragnars site first! There they all are, including the now presumably discontinued(?) KJ Eriksson 711 and 911 I mentioned. I might even get one myself! The green "Mora 2000" I recall as a bit dodgy, not that I have used one myself, but it is not good value for money compared with the other models, and the blade is too thin. I have seen it broken or damaged a couple of times.
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Many people consider the Mora 2000 to be one of the best moras (myself included). It uses the same thickness blade stock as all the other Eriksson models of .098. I think they are pretty tough. I've seen x-ray images of the tang to handle fit and they I don't see how the design could be stronger for what it is. I don't think "dodgy" is a word I would personally use to describe it.
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Hi, Nord. I enjoy your posts .... great having you join in this discussion!
I've read that Eriksson owns 36% of Frosts now, and maybe because of that changed their name to Mora of Sweden:
http://www.moraofsweden.se/
So it looks to me like Eriksson is still going strong, and even growing.
I don't know if this means Eriksson/Mora of Sweden expects to eventually take over Frosts. There are things about each brand I like over the other .... perhaps the best of both will start appearing in both lines.
I've read that Eriksson owns 36% of Frosts now, and maybe because of that changed their name to Mora of Sweden:
http://www.moraofsweden.se/
So it looks to me like Eriksson is still going strong, and even growing.
I don't know if this means Eriksson/Mora of Sweden expects to eventually take over Frosts. There are things about each brand I like over the other .... perhaps the best of both will start appearing in both lines.
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Nord said:
Yep, I doubt the 711 has been distcontinued. You can get them for $7 at Överskottsbolaget.
PC356 said:
OK, but after my limited experince of the Mora 2000 I would not recommend it. It is relatively pricey for a Mora too, add a few bucks and you can pick up a solid camp knife from Cold Steel or something (if you're lucky) instead. Better knives and better value for money can be found in some of the other models in my opinion. Several buddies in the army used Mora 2000's and they didn't like them much, I personally saw two break due to fairly normal use. The blade might not be thinner, but maybe it is a bit too thin for it's width? I also prefer the more traditional style Mora blades I guess. Anyway, like I said before, the KJ Eriksson ones are just as good as the Frost ones, if not better, and the blades are slightly thicker and more robust. The 711 and 911 (or the stainless counterparts) seem like ideal cheap camp and utility knives to me.
not2sharp said:
An older one.
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A Bahco hunting knife I believe? Not totally traditional Mora style(and maybe not even from Mora, or is it?), but close enough I guess. Bahco is another old Swedish quality company, they make various tools and other metal stuff, powerdrills, etc. Bahco is short for B.A. Hjorth & Company. They made a very high quality and solid bayonet for the AK4 (H&K G3 licence manufactured in Sweden by at least a couple of different makers) assault rifle. I have a nice late 60's production military issue (probably stolen by someone at some point, and then bought by me from a dubious antique dealer!
) one in my closet, no camera so no pics unfortunately. I really like the heavy, cold and sharp blade, seems like real quality steel that takes a razor edge, unlike many other bayonets that are pretty poor quality.Cliff Stamp
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Nord said:
What kind of use and how did they break?
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Well I gotta bite. I have read so many good post about the Mora I had to buy one. It is on its way. I will try the Swedish Mil. Mora.
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Nord said:
I have several Erikssons (and the Mora 2000) and I would never trade one of these for a Cold Steel knife. If you want to improve and have extra money you can do much better than CS, but the performance you get from the Moras and Erikssons (Bang for the Buck) are outstanding.
Continue to do some homework and you will learn much about performance vs. price.
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Hillbillenigma said:
That is a pretty absurd statement considering his first post in this thread :
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3969219&postcount=16
He lives in Sweden and has been using the knives since he was 4, he has probably done more "homework" with these knives than the bulk of people here. Simply because he prefers another knife doesn't make him ignorant/inexperienced.
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Hey, he`s hillbillenigma?!?!?
What do you expect....
Still, yeah, people from scandinavia start to tinker with puukko-type blades since early childhood, trust me. We might not know about ka-bars or "tactical" doodahs but dont lecture a swede about moras..lol.....
Moras have a steady reputation (apparently) in US, but dont mix apparent good performance with TRUE quality... They cut well straight from the box etc... but they are mass produced knifes meant for normal everyday work, from carpenters to fishermen etc...It breaks, you buy a new one.
In survival/serious hiking etc you need different level of quality. Like puukkos...
What do you expect....
Still, yeah, people from scandinavia start to tinker with puukko-type blades since early childhood, trust me. We might not know about ka-bars or "tactical" doodahs but dont lecture a swede about moras..lol.....
Moras have a steady reputation (apparently) in US, but dont mix apparent good performance with TRUE quality... They cut well straight from the box etc... but they are mass produced knifes meant for normal everyday work, from carpenters to fishermen etc...It breaks, you buy a new one.
In survival/serious hiking etc you need different level of quality. Like puukkos...
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I am just getting into Moras. Are Puukkos better or basically the same thing?
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Cynic1 said:
What do you get performance wise with the more expensive knives of the same general pattern?
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sodak said:Uh oh, is this going to be a Swede's v.s. Fin's thread? I'm glad I'm a safe distance away!
OT about Puukko's and Swedish slang.
Finn speaking to another Finn (In Swedish):
Var har du din puukkokniv? (Where's your Puukko knife?)
Finn speaking to a Swede:
Var har du din puukkokniv? (Where's your Moron knife?)
Cliff Stamp said:
They were treated in a not so mild manner perhaps, but still not severely abused, the kind of rough use many other knives would take without becoming seriously damaged. This was around ten years ago, and I obviously don't have any records or other scientific data to back me up. One had a larger portion of the tip break, and one just broke in half. Perhaps they were unlucky and got dodgy specimens, but that seems unlikely since Swedish steel products in general are usually of a high and consistent quality. Perhaps I should do my homework more regarding the Mora 2000, but my overall impression and experince of it has not been very good, especially when compared to other Moras. And I do think it is a bit pricey too, when compared to other, and better, Moras.