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Swedish knife law question

mnblade

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Some of you may have heard that the foreign minister of Sweden was stabbed to death on Sept. 10. Anna Lindh was shopping in a department store unguarded, when someone came up and stabbed her and then got away. At any rate, now Swedish authorities have reportedly arrested a suspect, a Swedish man described by a television station as a 35-year-old drifter. The story that I read about the arrest mentions the Swedish news agency TT, citing a police source, said the suspect had previously been convicted of illegally owning a knife, as well as theft and vandalism.

Convicted of illegally owning a knife!? :mad: Hey, I'm not one to march for the rights of murderous loons to own knives, but is it the case in Sweden that citizens can be convicted of owning a knife!?
 
Not "owning" but "carrying" is illegal unless you have a reason for carrying it (like in your profession as a carpenter).

The newsreporter got it wrong.

Over here the police interrogate the suspect and THEN he gets a lawyer... I hope they didn´t get the wrong guy. A lot of pressure on the police right now to catch the killer.

Gun permits over here last for five years then it´s time for a renewal. The police decide if you need the gun or not.

VAT over here is a whopping 24%.

Income tax is about 30%.

You can own a house but you are not allowed to own your apartment.

The definition of freedom? Don´t look for it over here.

/Colinz (guess if I´m moving out of here)
 
I do not think it is that bad, there may have been some imprecision during the translation. From what I have read on Swedish news sites he had been previously convicted for breaking the knife law, which can mean a lot of things.

As long as you are 21 years old you can own pretty much any type of knife in Sweden, including balisongs and automatics, no size limits. However, there are restrictions on what you are allowed to carry in public. Here the usual suspects (balisongs, automatics etc.) are forbidden, but "normal" pocket knives and multitools are allowed.
Source: The Swedish police´s page about knives
(The page is in Swedish, though.)

So maybe the guy had merely been caught with a balisong in public or something like that; the knife laws are not that horrible yet.

Kristofer
 
.../but "normal" pocket knives and multitools are allowed.
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I disagree. The link you provided list some examples of knives that should be considered illegal. The police can confiscate any knife, anytime in a public place.

BTW did you know that if the police wants to search someones house they don´t need to show any document from the judge... they usually call the prosecutor/judge (can´t remember which one right now) and he/she writes a formal document afterwards.

Almost like East-Germany...

/Colinz
 
Originally posted by Colinz
BTW did you know that if the police wants to search someones house they don´t need to show any document from the judge... they usually call the prosecutor/judge (can´t remember which one right now) and he/she writes a formal document afterwards.

Almost like East-Germany...
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Like France. The police has to get an authorization from a judge, but they don't need to show it.
 
Hey!
You guys should move to denmark! Here in denmark the only type of knife you're alowed to carry is a folder with a maximum lenght blade of 7 centimeter!
One hand opening knife are prohibited,and if you want to buy a knife with a blade over 12 cm you have to require a "weapon permit" at the local police station!
A friend of mine just ordered a classic Ka-bar from USA.He is member of the national guard.The cops opened the package and asked him if he had a "weapon permit" for this knife and he said:"no but I intent to use it in my duty of the national guard".
He was charged for unleagal weapon import and got a 300$ ticket for that!
One hand opening, autos and balisongs are completely prohibited.
I don't want to speak about our law concerning guns you guys will starting to cry....
 
Not to hijack your thread, but I have to agree with Olivier!
Knifelaws here in Denmark are ridiculous!
Forget about importing knives with (fixed)blades longer than 4,72" without an edged weapons permit and even with one, it's still difficult to get the knife from the police.
I bought two Assault Shakers from Busse in august and customs handed them over to the police.
They called me and almost accused me of illegal weapons possesion.
Fixed blades with single edged, sub 4,72" blades (not including push daggers and such) are legal for hunting, fishing, scouts and "sports activities".
Yah.....as long as they don't look different than a Helle Nying!

Since they couldn't find any passage in the law that prohibited me from owning two small fixed blades, they had to let me have them, but it took me almost two weeks and I dunno how many phone calls!
And out of the six officers I spoke to, one knew the law!:rolleyes:

Anyway....income tax here is around 42%, VAT is 25% and there is a state tax on 180% on cars! Imagine paying around $ 20.000,- for a used Ford Fiesta? No, I am not kidding!
Welcome to the fair country of Denmark!
And Shakespear must have had the gift of prophecy when he let Prince Hamlet say "There is something rotten in the state of Denmark!"

Suddenly Sweden doesn't seem so bad!;)
 
Colinz:

I disagree. The link you provided list some examples of knives that should be considered illegal. The police can confiscate any knife, anytime in a public place.
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I only get to Sweden for a week or two every year, and my relatives there are not interested in knives, so I am certainly not up to date on the exact application of the laws. Does the police not even need a reason for confiscating? Is it possible to get a confiscated item back?

Kristofer
 
I don't think there's a jurisdiction in the world where it's easy to get a confiscated item back. Once they take it, they don't want to admit they might have made a mistake. :)

Abadir! Do you have a specific objection to the Patriot Act, or are you just assuming if it's government, it must be bad? Personally, I think we made a mistake by making this war so easy on the folks at home. Very few people, in the US or elsewhere, take us seriously, because we are just coasting ... no pain, no gain :p

I am more than a little surprised at Scandinavian knife laws, coming from countries that have such great knifemaking traditions. I have a Helle Nying myself!
 
Mr. Bombastic,
Thanks! It's about to get worse, though! A young italian tourist was stabbed to death some time ago.
Based on that tragedy, the gov decided it was time to remove knives from the streets all together and they have now proposed a law that will make it illegal to carry any kind of knife, including a Leatherman Micra and the likes if I have understood it correctly!:mad:
Of course the criminals will respect that law and hand in all their knives to the police - it will help a lot and make us all much, much safer!:grumpy:

edited because I can't spill!;)
 
Esav Benyamin, about the "patriot act".

From basically everything I´ve read about it it sounds horrific!!
It seems to take away every right you thought you had at shout of one word, "terrorist". You don´t even have to a suspect to have this happen, all you have to do is to know someone who is under suspicion. The little thing called evidence doesn´t seem to be all that important either.
To me then it sound too much like the witchhunts of a couple of centuries ago or the "Are you or have you ever been a member of...." of more recent date.
I´m glad to see that some people in your country are responding to this threat to your society.

I´ve travelled in many countries in the world and in those journeys I´ve come to realize that I live in what I think is the best country in the world........SWEDEN!


P.S. When I joined this forum I said to myself that I would stay away from any political disussions. I´m sorry if my opinion caused anyone to be upset but I was very upset when someone compared my wonderful country to a former policestate.
I now think I´ve said enough in this matter and hope to end my participation in this thread.
 
Of course the criminals will respect that law and hand in all their knives to the police - it will help a lot and make us all much, much safer!
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:rolleyes: I agree with you "The Porcupine". It seems that someone forgot to tell the guy that killed our foreign minister that:

1. Carrying knives (weapons) in public places is against the law.

2. Stabbing people is against the law.

And regarding to (1) above, they ask why someone didn´t intervene when the killer attacked in a shopping mall in broad daylight... Could it be that laws like that breed a sheeple mentality among the masses? Could it be that if you had a CCW, a gun and did a quick Mocambique drill the attack might have been stopped? At least the probability would have been higher.

I was very upset when someone compared my wonderful country to a former policestate.
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This is the sheeple mentality I mentioned above. Abadir, if you´re going to point fingers please point properly. It´s me you are talking about and I don´t agree with the "wonderful country". The socialistic government over here testing the "folkhemmet" model and other stuff has led to:

A) People that are born in the 1960´s and later can just hope for a pension to kick in. Personally I think the later generations are skrewed.

B) We lost the economical advantage we had because we stayed out of WW2.

I´ve also tried to leave political threads and concentrate on knives when I´m here.
I knew that stuff about Denmark and I can just say that I´m sorry for you guys.

I´m ruining a nice day thinking about this stuff so I´m leaving this thread.

/Colinz
 
hi!
just to agrement this thread with a new exemple!
I just went to a "Danish boyscout shop" here in my town.The owner is a knife nuts too and I wanted to see the new fallkniven U2.
You guys won't believe it! One of his customer buyed a "leatherman wave" for some years ago.The happy owner of this multitool was stoped on the street with his wife because a curious cop wanted to see what kind of knife he was wearing in this tinny litle brown leather sheath. And YES, bingo! The cop took the knife and charged him for carying a prohibited WEAPON!!! Yes...The cop said :"this knife is One hand opening so it's unlegal".
We don't speak about a kerambit or a dager,I mean...a multitool!!!
WHERE ARE THE VIKINGS THAT MADE THIS NATION???
So please guys in all the world: feel ya lucky!
 
WHERE ARE THE VIKINGS THAT MADE THIS NATION???
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I guess living in the US :)

I always carry at least one knife (usually a Spydie Military). Been doing so for the past ten years. I've never been stopped by a LEO. The thing is, if you look OK and behave normaly, there is no reason for the officer to stop you.

~Paul~
 
dePaul,

The thing is, if you look OK and behave normaly, there is no reason for the officer to stop you.
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That is the way it should be, but that is not the case here! It's not uncommon for people who are carrying knives on their belt, to be stopped by police officers to "see if they are legal"!:rolleyes:
And as the first LM Wave that were sold here had one hand opening blades (has since been changed), they are illegal!:grumpy:
Besides, folding knives with blades over 7 cm. (2,75") are illegal, one hand operated or not......! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Edited to add:
If you'r danish and want to carry a knife in public; keep it small, keep it hidden and keep it secret unless you must use it!
I carry a tiny Leatherman Micra (not forbidden yet, but probably will be soon) for use amongst "the sheeple"!
 
Originally posted by The Porcupine
Not to hijack your thread, but I have to agree with Olivier!
Knifelaws here in Denmark are ridiculous!
Forget about importing knives with (fixed)blades longer than 4,72" without an edged weapons permit and even with one, it's still difficult to get the knife from the police.
I bought two Assault Shakers from Busse in august and customs handed them over to the police.
They called me and almost accused me of illegal weapons possesion.
Fixed blades with single edged, sub 4,72" blades (not including push daggers and such) are legal for hunting, fishing, scouts and "sports activities".
Yah.....as long as they don't look different than a Helle Nying!
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so how the hell do you use, purchase or transport a kitchen knife? you know, like a nice 7" messermeister? or a paring knife? ir a bread knife? basically everyone who cooks is behaving illegally??
 
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