sword bent when hitting tree branch

yeah im not kidding....
i made a handle too obviously...will take pics, i just used two x 4 wood and used an aluminum rod for the pins.

basically this was just practice to get used to grinding, making the handle AND GUARD ETC.

thinking about it now, it wasnt smart hitting the tree but i wanted to see how sharp it was and how well it cut.

seeing as how it was low carbon i didnt fear it snapping.
 
Guys.... especially the ones that sling rocks at the "arrogance" of experienced makers, this is a classic case of why we seem to discourage, for lack of a better word, some things for new makers. Adam could have been seriously, seriously hurt. If you don't know how bad the injuries he could have suffered then you quite possibly don't have enough knowledge to pass judgment on some of the advice given.

Adam, you did a nice job on that sword.

Please read a lot and see if you can visit a maker's shop before you move on. Remember that when we seem to be "holding you back" or whatever you want to call it, we give the advice with a caring heart and an attempt to prevent someone from falling into the traps that we have experienced.
 
yeah im not kidding.... (quote snipped)

seeing as how it was low carbon i didnt fear it snapping.

You realize that some of the people that are posting "you must be joking" like Mace are REAL swordmakers..... errrrr Mace was quoted in Blade mag as wanting to put a sword in everyone's hands.

Your quote about low carbon not snapping shows your lack of experience, lack of caring or some sort of desire to really injure yourself. :(

I'm tempted to go into Senior NCO mode but I'll just head back into the shop and pray you learn more about steel and knifemaking before you get hurt. :(
 
adambomber, the fact that you didn't get snippy after many of us (rightfully) smacked you upside the head (so to speak), shows me you have some character and a desire to learn. I applaud that. The "sword" you ground does show promise in terms of being able to keep your grinds straight; I applaud that, too.

Keep in mind that some of these guys are among the very best in the world! Google them. They are remarkably willing to share "secrets" with new makers like me, but they don't suffer fools gladly; their time is very valuable.

Now then, step back for a minute, please. You gotta walk before you can run, friend. READ READ READ!!! Start with the "Newbies" thread on this very forum. There is an absolute wealth of information in there, compiled for all. Get you some REAL cutlery steel, or at least invest in a good file to temper and grind, and start with a small EDC or hunting knife. Sword-making is an art unto itself; starting out by trying to make a sword is sort of like deciding to build an F1 racecar before you know how to change your own oil.

Will made a good point, too... messing around can get you hurt real bad, real fast. None of us wants to see that happen. Take a gander at the Shop Safety thread. If you're not willing to learn to work safely and exercise common sense (as in, don't go after a tree with a poorly-made "sword"), no maker is going to want to be anywhere near you.

Also, please see the "Newbie status?" and "Random notes for newer makers" threads. Both are recent, and both were started by well-respected makers. They will give you an idea of what questions to ask, and get answers that are useful to you.

I've found through asking my own dumb questions, if you do a bit of research on your own and use that knowledge to ask intelligent questions, these folks around here will almost bend over backwards to help you!

Welcome to the forum... I don't mean to offend you, or put you off this amazingly interesting and fun hobby/business. I honestly hope you take this advice to heart and stick with it.
 
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I would say thats just awesome for your first. I basicaly just got into knifemaking(as a hobby) this fall, and am realy interested in short swords. Basicaly propane forge, wood heated quench tank and a 1x42" grinder is the only tools I bought/made for this. I am still pounding scrap leaf springs into blades, and have recently started casting my own gaurds from scrap brass. Actually most of my blades cost next to nothing to make, as its mostly found/recycled materials... Other than propane. It took me a few times to get something acceptable made. My main goal was to cleave flesh and bone without damage to the edge(chipping, or rolling). believe it or not I found that deer bone is as hard or harder on the edge than trying to cut steel oil drums. But I did reach my goal, and learned a few things in the process.

Once I get my power hammer built, I am going to try and weld some 1080 into a U of spring steel, and see how that works. The spring steel I have (likely just 1060) isn't that great at edge holding at ultra low angles compared to some 1080 that I have played with.

This is my 4th and latest atempt at a 'sword' I know I know.... its all backassward... just an experiment. And No it wasn't sharp when I was doing the flex test.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v314/BigJD/reaper5.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v314/BigJD/reaper2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v314/BigJD/reaper3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v314/BigJD/reaper4.jpg
 
John, look to your heat treating. work with known alloy steel, and heat treat accordingly, you will be amazed at what your common spring steel can do. My undestanding is that the number one choice for steel for ABS journeyman tests is 5160.

Adambomber, fill out your profile dude! you could be next door neighbors with any one of us and we would never know it until we found you in the driveway with a nice looking bent up mild steel sword trying to stick into you for the offense you offered it using as a pruning implement. At the very least put in the city in which you live. you would not believe the times someone very experienced noticed in someone's profile taht they were in the same city and invited them over for some live at the anvil instruction.

Welcome to BF. Ask a lot of questions, but please read the pinned threads first. there really is a huge collection of answers there.

-Page
 
I second Page's suggestion of filling out your profile. Folks may be willing to help you, but only if they know you're there.

Also, believe it when Stacy says he cares. He has given a helping hand and words of sanity to a LOT of new makers here (yours truly included). He really is inteested in seeing you succeed. He's not just some old guy muttering about "whippersnappers" and "the right way" to do things...Though he has been making knives since chipping flint was new technology ;)

-d
 
build them to cut wood and you can do it all you want...though your heat treatment really ought to be priority

Never mind the "don't hack at trees" snobs, i've been making swords of many geometries and hacking at everything for many years... just build them for the task
 
Never mind the "don't hack at trees" snobs

Geez. Thats kinda harsh. Seems those snobs are just concerned.

The sword was obviously not built for chopping wood. Sure, if you build a khukuri, then chop away.
 
Adam, After seeing the pic of your sword I think it looked great for a first try at anything. It takes a certain amount of skill and patience to do what you did, but please friend, take some time to do some reading. Your work will be a thousand times better for it.
Looking foward to seeing something you make from a good steel.:thumbup:
Good luck!
Mace
 
Adam, After seeing the pic of your sword I think it looked great for a first try at anything. It takes a certain amount of skill and patience to do what you did, but please friend, take some time to do some reading. Your work will be a thousand times better for it.
Looking foward to seeing something you make from a good steel.:thumbup:
Good luck!
Mace
yeah i watched a couple videos and read, i tend to learn from doing, trial and error lol


i learned some and have some clamps coming and am going to buy a few more things and i think with some good steel i can make something decent



:D
 
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