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Oh goodie.
Lorien, you and the other folks (who mostly remain anonymous) who've taken the plunge into the unknown and tried one of these forged ti alloy swords and knives as development has contnued, and given me your observations about them, and discussed them, have all been more important than you know in helping me to bring this unexplored sort of alloy/sword type into reality. You bladeites are a classy bunch, and it's truly appreciated.
Lorien, you and the other folks (who mostly remain anonymous) who've taken the plunge into the unknown and tried one of these forged ti alloy swords and knives as development has contnued, and given me your observations about them, and discussed them, have all been more important than you know in helping me to bring this unexplored sort of alloy/sword type into reality. You bladeites are a classy bunch, and it's truly appreciated.
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Never found out how many, Mete. Eventually broke that one over an anvil, but it took a while...and right on the spot that was overheated during its (very poor) HT, of course. It was the first one that had survived being made in the first place, and wanted to see what it would take to finally break it.
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hey friend,
I don't know enough (or anything) about ti. So, I will just take your word for it. What is driving your decision to make a full-sized version of the short mock-up? Love to see the evolution of your design ideas. It takes a kind of courage to share your work in this way. Keep us posted, please.
I don't know enough (or anything) about ti. So, I will just take your word for it. What is driving your decision to make a full-sized version of the short mock-up? Love to see the evolution of your design ideas. It takes a kind of courage to share your work in this way. Keep us posted, please.
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my concern with titanium blades was a perception that edge holding would be vastly inferior to quality steel, and I've found that concern to be unfounded. I knew that durability would be good, but was surprised to find out that was better than expected. Here's a quick vid from the Mechatitanium thread;
[video=youtube;A9-4lYW-55E]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9-4lYW-55E[/video]
[video=youtube;A9-4lYW-55E]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9-4lYW-55E[/video]
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Thanks for posting more info, Lorien. :] The characteristics of Ti alloys vary greatly due the the alloying elements used, even before altering the heat-treatment! At least a few of them should be quite nice, blade-wise.
That's a good question, Kevin, one that's hard to answer in type. I've been scouring the Internet for days trying to find a photo I'd seen of a certain antique jian that explains it very well; you could almost say the jian inspired the whole idea. It was a masterpiece, with a profile that was a bit shocking to look at. It was wide and thin, and the tip was almost flat - there couldn't have been more than 20 degrees of angle between the side edges and the tip edges, and quite square-looking. I can't find the photo anywhere!
Considering how a jian is used to strike, which is with a short cut with the tip of the blade, and this also includes with a thrust, the sword was made by someone who understood the jian so intelligently, that they made a blade gives the user of the sword a better understanding of it themselves due to its very shape, and would probably even increase their martial abilities straight away by using it. Just by merely looking at it, one can better understand jian swordsmanship. To me, the sword was absolutely incredible to behold, one of those swords that just downloads information into your brain when you look at it.
A jian is a Chinese double-edged straight sword, for those who don't know about them.
Basically, the small knife Lorien has is a small model of the tip of a single-edged version of that particular jian, but also curved like a dao (Chinese saber), and with a widening tip, and with a slight curve on the tip angle as well. The steep angle will "push-cut-thrust" like that insane jian, and also slash like a saber, and it allows for a thinner, stronger, less delicate tip on a blade that is easy to bring from "resting" to "invisible speed" instantly. The blade will be sort of a hybrid between that jian and dao, should function well when used as either, and the result should be particularly good for use with the titanium alloy I've been using. The shape and design of the sword affects how you use it - how you can use it, and also how you will use it.
That's a good question, Kevin, one that's hard to answer in type. I've been scouring the Internet for days trying to find a photo I'd seen of a certain antique jian that explains it very well; you could almost say the jian inspired the whole idea. It was a masterpiece, with a profile that was a bit shocking to look at. It was wide and thin, and the tip was almost flat - there couldn't have been more than 20 degrees of angle between the side edges and the tip edges, and quite square-looking. I can't find the photo anywhere!
Considering how a jian is used to strike, which is with a short cut with the tip of the blade, and this also includes with a thrust, the sword was made by someone who understood the jian so intelligently, that they made a blade gives the user of the sword a better understanding of it themselves due to its very shape, and would probably even increase their martial abilities straight away by using it. Just by merely looking at it, one can better understand jian swordsmanship. To me, the sword was absolutely incredible to behold, one of those swords that just downloads information into your brain when you look at it.
A jian is a Chinese double-edged straight sword, for those who don't know about them.
Basically, the small knife Lorien has is a small model of the tip of a single-edged version of that particular jian, but also curved like a dao (Chinese saber), and with a widening tip, and with a slight curve on the tip angle as well. The steep angle will "push-cut-thrust" like that insane jian, and also slash like a saber, and it allows for a thinner, stronger, less delicate tip on a blade that is easy to bring from "resting" to "invisible speed" instantly. The blade will be sort of a hybrid between that jian and dao, should function well when used as either, and the result should be particularly good for use with the titanium alloy I've been using. The shape and design of the sword affects how you use it - how you can use it, and also how you will use it.
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