Here is my unused Elmax 460 I believe it is called. Just shy of 9.5" with about a 4.5" blade. Unused, unsharpened but may have stropped it my jeans a couple of times but never a stone taken to it. This thing is a razor. Thin for slicing. Has a nice kydex sheath I think is a Welke sheath but am not positive. It isn't stamped as such but looks like the sheath he made for me for my 311. I will say this all SYCKO's should be as sharp as this is. To bad they aren't. My 311 wouldn't cut nothing out of the cardboard sleeve. But it sure does now! Anyways looking for SOLD and SHIPPED
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