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Creaky Bones said:
I love this design. I’d love it even more if the plunge line on the No choil option was brought back to match the angle of the front and rear of the handle. That would give more usable blade and you wouldn’t have a big ricasso area
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Apologies for the crude drawing. It’s not even 5am and I haven’t finished my first cup of coffee yet. ☕
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This would be a smart design choice for Busse (and many other brands). So many times, on knives of most brands, I notice there could be an improvement in the ricasso area. Usually too long when it's not needed. Why not have the most cutting edge as possible? Plus, it would look better! If that would be a standard practice, we could do away with the ugly, useless choils wasting space on the blade. It seems so obvious to me and would make the designer look like they haven't forgotten something. I pass on many knives with poorly designed ricasso's. I would be very happy if Busse chooses to do this. I ordered the no choil option even though I don't like orange because there's NO CHOIL.
 
Creaky Bones said:
I love this design. I’d love it even more if the plunge line on the No choil option was brought back to match the angle of the front and rear of the handle. That would give more usable blade and you wouldn’t have a big ricasso area
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Apologies for the crude drawing. It’s not even 5am and I haven’t finished my first cup of coffee yet. ☕
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Tritium said:
This would be a smart design choice for Busse (and many other brands). So many times, on knives of most brands, I notice there could be an improvement in the ricasso area. Usually too long when it's not needed. Why not have the most cutting edge as possible? Plus, it would look better! If that would be a standard practice, we could do away with the ugly, useless choils wasting space on the blade. It seems so obvious to me and would make the designer look like they haven't forgotten something. I pass on many knives with poorly designed ricasso's. I would be very happy if Busse chooses to do this. I ordered the no choil option even though I don't like orange because there's NO CHOIL.
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Hear, hear! You guys took the words right out of my mouth. 👏

I like how these were done, though I do get the complaints about snagging small choils, but I'm mostly using mine in wood where it's less an issue. One on the far left was done well though as it angles toward the edge to help material slip off rather than just get stuck. The middle and right one, notice how the jimping puts your thumb right over the heel for controlled power cuts. *Chef's kiss*

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I was pretty happy with how these two were done. My thumb goes right up to or over the heel of the blade. No excessively large ricasso. Choil on left one angles toward edge to reduce snags, one on right does somewhat as well.

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#MakeSmallRicassosGreatAgain
 
The Knife Life said:
Hear, hear! You guys took the words right out of my mouth. 👏

I like how these were done, though I do get the complaints about snagging small choils, but I'm mostly using mine in wood where it's less an issue. One on the far left was done well though as it angles toward the edge to help material slip off rather than just get stuck. The middle and right one, notice how the jimping puts your thumb right over the heel for controlled power cuts. *Chef's kiss*

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I was pretty happy with how these two were done. My thumb goes right up to or over the heel of the blade. No excessively large ricasso. Choil on left one angles toward edge to reduce snags, one on right does somewhat as well.

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#MakeSmallRicassosGreatAgain
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I have those knives (except for the first one) and I agree, they are done well. I also like how CPK does it - very shallow sharpening choil. The angle of the Scrapyard is better than a deep choil like on the South Pole. No need to create a snag point.
 
Funny thing is, back in 2008 or 2007 when the Boss Jack and Boss Street came out.

There was the same option Large Choil, Small choil, and no choil.

I remember being at Blade show those years and saw lots and lots of no choil model lootory tags being turned back in because people turns out did not want no choil

After the shows I saw lots and lots of no choil versions of both on the exchange and sitting there for a long time and selling for less.

Same thing was happening then before the release lots of folks were clamoring for No Choil knives.

Busse made them and they turned into non-sellers.

In my opinion they look wrong, I see the thoughts behind the not snagging arguments.

I also handle tons (1000's) of knives, fixed and folders both, 99% all have at least small choils or sharpening stops.

rarely do I handle no choil knives.

they just do not seem popular ?

Personally I am not a fan of large choil knives, especially on folders. I think they are a waste of blade/cutting space.

my 2 cents.
 
My small choil stone washed model arrived yesterday. It is first mudder handle model. Very comfortable handle and the stone wash finish looks very cool.

Machine marks are visible on mine but it’s a knife, not a luxury watch so it’s fine by me. If you are super picky maybe the satin finish is worth the extra cost.
 
The Knife Life said:
Hear, hear! You guys took the words right out of my mouth. 👏

I like how these were done, though I do get the complaints about snagging small choils, but I'm mostly using mine in wood where it's less an issue. One on the far left was done well though as it angles toward the edge to help material slip off rather than just get stuck. The middle and right one, notice how the jimping puts your thumb right over the heel for controlled power cuts. *Chef's kiss*

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Would you be willing to post or pm me the names of these three blades and that of their manufactures please sir?
 
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