Tactical or Engineering ? A serious problem to solve …

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I am, at this moment, sitting at my desk in the new Edge-Works facility knocking out some work on the phone and computer. It is a humble building, still in need of final finishing but a great improvement over the old. All in all I like it very much and am excited at the thought of out growing this building as well.

The problem ?

hold on … I’m getting to it.

On my left (starting with things close to me and moving away) A small folding table with a table cloth. On it … coffee filters, a jar of non-dairy creamer, sugar in Tupperware, assorted napkins, can of Folgers coffee and a roll of paper towels. Next to that a refrigerator (standing aprox 33” tall) with a toaster, a Mr. Coffee coffee maker with ¾ of a pot left from this morning and someone’s coffee mug left half full of hot chocolate now cold. Max distance to the farthest edge of the frige is 12 feet from my Pos.


So … like I said … “I’m Work ‘en , at my desk, mind’en my own business” … when I notice some one sneaking around the shop.

That’s right an intruder … never mind that he is only 6” nose to tail. This guy, in plain sight, less then 12 feet away dares me to do something about it.

Yes, I know of the traditional mouse trap, however, that is out of the question for this cocky, more fur then brains, little squeaker. He’s CROSSED THE LINE !! … and I’m in … I’ll play his little game. And when it’s over he won’t like it.

So far I have ascertained that he knows that I am here. He is completely un-alarmed while I remain seated. Talking on the phone, typing on the keyboard or shouting threats and insults have yet to produce any reaction at all by this intruder. However, the instant I stand he scrams. I return to my seat and a few minuets later he is back … standing on top of the frige lapping up cold hot chocolate.

So if I engage him tactically I must remain seated. With in arms reach I have several items around my desk. 1st is my new Springfield V10 Ultra Compact .45, a NAA .22 mag, a Wrist Rocked sling shot, an Emmersion commander, an Elishewitz dagger and 3 prototype knives that Will Fennell dropped off last week.

I’m thinking the firearms are out (for now) as the building is still too new and the wall would make a lousy back stop (always remember rule 4). The Emmerson is numbered so I don’t want to ding it and the Elishewitz although it would throw well, is one of my favorites. That leaves the Wrist Rocket and Will’s prototypes. The problem with the Wrist Rocket is I am fresh out of ammo … that is; what do I shoot?

Then again … I may be looking at this all wrong. This may not be a test of brute force at all but rather a contest of wits. One in which the superior mind wins out. In that case it is an engineering problem requiring the design and construction of a better intruder stopping devise.

What do think? I may go home and sleep on it tonight and deal with this tomorrow. Any help would be appreciated.
 
#1: Unload the NAA.

#2: Remove the projectile from one of the shells by prying it out of the shell with the studiest available knife.

#3: Load said projectile into the wrist rocket.

#4: PEST CONTROL!

#5: Hope it isn't Vampiric...we've had a rash of Vampiric rodents around here lately...
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Now, if you had The Outsider you could throw it...it's got enough edges and tips to more or less guarantee slaughter no matter how bad a thrower you are
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Jim
 
buy some shorts for the .22, or some Colobri's (no powder, just primer with a 20 grain bullet going like 350fps or so). Either that or get an air rifle. My paremts hated the fact that I was killin intruding mice with mine inside the house. One little pump and it is all over.

YeK, the mighty Mouse Hunter

 
Scott,

Long time, no hear buddy
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As to your new found companion, this one's easy. The little sucker has let it be known he loves cold hot chocolate mix. So let him have some, with a nice spike. He'll go back to his bed and explode.

Just be sure to put a poison label on that cup when you recharge it and let everyone around there know it's been spiked for the uninvited guest. No weapons discharges or knife dings result and your problem goes away.

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[This message has been edited by bald1 (edited 28 December 1999).]
 
I say hang on for authorization to sling a few of Mr. Fennells knives around the shop
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Bald1,
Obviously you have never seen the coffe cups Marines drink out of!!! If that mouse is in one of Scotts folks cups he should be dead already!!!



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Screw the traditional mousetrap. Screw the all-out war idea. They make rectangular box traps that are balanced to one end (like a see-saw); when the mouse steps into it, the trap tips over a little bit, with a lid that falls over, closing the open end.

Or you could set up one of those traps with a stick holding a box/cage/bowl up. Those work pretty well too.

Howie
 

Shoot him with wax bullets like we use in fast draw. I've been known to take out a rodent or two with one.

Good luck,

Bobby
 
Try the wrist rocket with BB gun BB's. Sew a light piece of leather to the botton of its sling making a sort of pouch. Keep a few bottle caps of BB's on your desk, when you see the little rodent, load and fire. It will have the effect of about a 28 GA at that range. Works great for squirrels in town too.Oh, use 10-15 BB's at a time.

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Get a Ruger Mk II Government and have it suppressed. I *know* there are a few local guys who would do it for you...
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Put up a phone book or two as a backstop and wait for him to come back... then end the problem.

Spark

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How 'bout giving him a pardon and making him your mascot/guard mouse(or is it a rat)? I'm no tree-hugger, but 'tis the season!
-Redleg out.

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"Blessed is the Lord my rock, who trains my hands for war, and my fingers for battle..." excerpted from Psalms 144.
 
I've also got one of those 5 shot WinchesterRimFireMagnum NAA's (schweet-n-neat) Butt I have a spare cylinder for regular 22's and a load of CC bird/snake shot at the lower velocity is just what Dr Fish recommends.

If you must 'engineer' the situ then inkjet a big pic of a brick of Velveta and hotglue it to some steelplate as a backdrop.

<knifecontent> Scrape up the residue.


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Scott,
I had a very similar problem at work also. Try using Duct tape. Leave the coffee cup where it is. Place strips of Duct tape around the cup. When your intruder steps on the tape he gets stuck to the tape. If it work as well for you as it did for me, you will just have a taped up rodent to diposit in the trash!
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Hope this helps, it worked for me.

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I use a rake on them in my barn. Its kind of hard on the rake but you get a nice splat
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Just lean one against the corner of your desk, and keep the .44 on your desk. That way nobody will give you a hard time about the rake
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Seriously, for the future, keep an 18" or so blowgun in your desk with some steel darts.That way you can nail him to the floor
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If you get some BB's for your slingshot, try and find some lead BB's.They should have more knockdown power to keep him from crawling back to his hole and dying. That could smell if you don't know where it is.
It would definitely be an interesting sight if you use the.44 . I'm wondering if there would be any mouse left or just a stain surrounding the hole in the floor.
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I finally got these smileys figured out. Now if I could just post pictures in less than 35 trys.
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[This message has been edited by Matt Shade (edited 28 December 1999).]
 
Another thought, Get a small boot knife that you don't care about messing up.Then just leave it on you desk until your new friend comes to visit again.It could probably be passed off as a letter opener, but I doubt anyone you work with is going to care.

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Fix it right the first time, use Baling Wire !
 
Go high tech. Get one of those electronic pest repellers. Plug it in and send the little rascal to your neighbors while you go about your business.

Chi
 
Somehow you have to attach a piece of metal to it's head, preferably copper. Then set live wires on the fridge and when he runs on it, he will electrocute himself.

Hmmmmm... If you were able to attach metal to his head, i guess you wouldn't have this problem...
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David Gardner
Vineland NJ

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Well, I'd be tempted to go with a 12 gauge, just be sure to wear eye protection.

But, seriously, I've had excellent results with common traps. The tricks are:

1) buy ones that come wrapped in plastic so that they haven't been handled.

2) put on gloves when you handle them so as not to leave any smell.

3) bait them with peanut butter. Mice love it, it smell strongly to attract 'em, and it's sticky so they can't just grab it and run. If the first lick doesn't set the thing off, the second or third will.

4) place the trap in a dark corner near where you've seen the mouse. Mice hate open spaces.

5) turn the lights out. Mice prefer the dark.

SNAP! and you know he's gone.



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Chuck
Balisongs -- because it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing!
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Sorry to spoil the funny atmosphere, but seriously, how many of you have shot a high quality airgun?
Serious airguns have nothing to do with cheap BB guns, they are very hi-tech and capable of outstanding accuracy.
Try a Beeman RX-1 rifle if you want power, or any match rifle for unbelievable accuracy, and you can even get a real-size and weight Beretta 92F from Crosman (8-shot, double action) that you can use for fun or training.

Here is a link to get you started: http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Rapids/1691/info.html
 
Don't go dissin' airguns. Olympic shooting includes airguns. And, while quite accurate, they can also be plenty powerful.

For a mouse problem, though, I'd still go with a 12 gauge. Remember: the answer IS more power.



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Chuck
Balisongs -- because it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing!
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Some airguns are powerful and accurate. But I think it would be alot more fun just put a shell in the .22 and splatter the mouse.Airguns are expensive to get a good one like you said.
since this is blade forums, a cutting tool is what we should go for.I say find yourself a real cheap 420 J2 knife, a 2 dollar made in taiwan gas station folder should work very well.Throw it at the floor direclty in front of our furry friend, It should shatter and have a nice shrapnel effect.
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