Tactical tomahawk destructive testing video

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I finally got video edited together and uploaded showing my tactical 'hawks' various configurations and then doing some testing with them.

[video=youtube;qxDOr3UY9nk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxDOr3UY9nk&list=UUPn751ukYQ3lSOQJMssVocw[/video]

It's fairly thorough and therefore long. If you'd like to skip ahead to different sections, here's how it's divided up:

Design and Options - 1:22
Sheaths - 13:52
Cutting Wood - 22:57
Destructive Testing - 28:37

More video later.
 
James, thanks so much for taking the time to make and share this video. I love seeing 'hawks getting destructive :D

You, Tobin, and the 'hawks did an outstanding job.:thumbup:
 
YESSSS!!! Great Wez impersonation! :D

I've seen the Road Warrior more than my share of times as well, and a week doesn't go by where I don't at least once yell, "WE MOVE! WE GO IN! WE KILL THEM ALL!"
 
So cool, James.
you and mecha need to get into the lab, aka, knife shop, together.
rolf
 
Thank you for taking the time to make the video and for sharing this.
Perhaps I'm too old and become a skeptic but I seem to recall doing what you did (and much more, and in earnest) to old appliances with an Estwing 20 oz framing hammer in order to prepare them for roadside pickup on garbage days. I still have and proudly use that hammer! And would you perchance be daring enough to test-compare a vintage (or even new) wood-handled fireman's axe with one of your creations when it comes to picking locks or busting up cars?
 
Thank y'all!!

Mecha - I figured since I was almost a half hour into the destructive testing video with no destructive testing yet, it was enough talk. :)

Dingy - It's 1/4" 4140.

300Six - I will enthusiastically film the demonstrations you want just as soon as you film and upload to Youtube a demonstration of you donning 50 to 90 pounds of armor, radio, water, weapon, ammo, and various other odds and ends to keep you alive, in addition to your beloved fire ax and baseball bat, run through 110 degree heat while jihadis are shooting AKs and RPGs at you, then use your baseball bat to engage an enemy trying to shove a knife into you, or use the fire ax to open a locked door so you can get away from the bullets pockmarking the mud wall a few feet away from you. Alternatively, if you'd like to film yourself fast rappelling onto the deck of a pirate ship off the coast of Africa during a drug bust whilst hanging onto your fire ax and baseball bat in addition to your other gear and weapons, I would also find that acceptable.
 
Thank y'all!!

Mecha - I figured since I was almost a half hour into the destructive testing video with no destructive testing yet, it was enough talk. :)

Dingy - It's 1/4" 4140.

300Six - I will enthusiastically film the demonstrations you want just as soon as you film and upload to Youtube a demonstration of you donning 50 to 90 pounds of armor, radio, water, weapon, ammo, and various other odds and ends to keep you alive, in addition to your beloved fire ax and baseball bat, run through 110 degree heat while jihadis are shooting AKs and RPGs at you, then use your baseball bat to engage an enemy trying to shove a knife into you, or use the fire ax to open a locked door so you can get away from the bullets pockmarking the mud wall a few feet away from you. Alternatively, if you'd like to film yourself fast rappelling onto the deck of a pirate ship off the coast of Africa during a drug bust whilst hanging onto your fire ax and baseball bat in addition to your other gear and weapons, I would also find that acceptable.

I think I like you. Excellent response. Could you give us a quick run down of what the testing consisted of? (I have satellite internet and can't watch the whole video)
 
Thank y'all!!

Mecha - I figured since I was almost a half hour into the destructive testing video with no destructive testing yet, it was enough talk. :)

Dingy - It's 1/4" 4140.

300Six - I will enthusiastically film the demonstrations you want just as soon as you film and upload to Youtube a demonstration of you donning 50 to 90 pounds of armor, radio, water, weapon, ammo, and various other odds and ends to keep you alive, in addition to your beloved fire ax and baseball bat, run through 110 degree heat while jihadis are shooting AKs and RPGs at you, then use your baseball bat to engage an enemy trying to shove a knife into you, or use the fire ax to open a locked door so you can get away from the bullets pockmarking the mud wall a few feet away from you. Alternatively, if you'd like to film yourself fast rappelling onto the deck of a pirate ship off the coast of Africa during a drug bust whilst hanging onto your fire ax and baseball bat in addition to your other gear and weapons, I would also find that acceptable.

Best response to a ive heard to a ridiculous post.
 
James,

Can't wait to visit the shop again before leaving Texas. The 15" Woodsman will be right at home next to my War Chief and Benghazi Warfighter. Just make sure Tobin is at the shop cause I'm bringing a bunch of Breakfast Tacos :eagerness:
 
Have not seen the video yet but look forward to it.
300six has always been a troll in the subject of Tomahawks. I'm sure he has an old axe and bat propped up next to his keyboard.
I've used my Tomahawk on duty and now our chief is purchasing 10 for the dept. (even though bats and axes are cheaper)
 
Riverwarrior & Rustyboy - I'm gonna end up keeling over in a sugar coma that day! :D

Wroughndt - I spent the first several minutes of the video talking about the different options and reasoning behind the designs, showed the sheaths and some of the carry options, and demonstrated a few of the lanyard options that the flared-tube rivets give you.

All the testing was shown with an 18" Wrecker and an 18" War Chief. I demonstrated cutting into a piece of seasoned oak firewood as a basis of comparison. I did lose some energy from the short length of the firewood making it bounce around when struck, but it bit into the wood well and my cameraman got hit by the flying chips of wood several times. :)

Then I moved on to cutting the corner off a cinderblock, smashing it, and using both spike designs to bust it into pieces. No damage and it cut wood like before. After that I did a deliberate overstrike onto the web of the cinderblock with the neck of the Wrecker. No damage to the neck, but I hit the point of the sharpened inner beard on the cinderblock in the process and rolled the point over a bit. That's both bad and good, as I think I ground the point a little thin on that one and it picked up that damage. However, it took slight damage without catastrophic failure, i.e. snapping off, which is what I want with the heat treatment. None of my prototype tests that focused on the point of the beard (the weakest part of the design by necessity as it is the sharpest point with the least steel), and further testing on the points of the beards in the video didn't pick up more damage, so I really think it was simply I took the grind down too far on that particular one.

After the overstrike test, I chopped some more cinderblock pieces before moving on to heavy gauge electrical cord that was the 220 plug for the clothes dryer we chopped up in the demo. It took some small nicks in the edge, but cut almost all the way through the cord; i.e. cut all the way through all of the thick copper wires except the last one, and cut most of the way through that one. After that, back to the wood cutting where it chopped as well as before.

Then I moved to cutting into the clothes dryer with the War Chief. It's at least 30 years old and has sheet metal comparably thick to modern cars. It did some minor damage to the sharp edge of the 'hawk, but once again chopped the seasoned oak as well as it had started out doing. Then I tested the point of the beard pulling it down into the dryer and opening up large holes. No damage to the point. Tried it with the damaged beard of the Wrecker, with no difference in penetration.

Next up was testing the spikes, first showing the penetration of the War Chief's combat spike vs. the Wrecker's pry spike going through the dryer sheet metal. Both penetrated well, but the combat spike penetrated deeper more easily, as expected. Then we stepped it up by spiking the cut-off end of a propane tank. Both penetrated, neither took any damage, even when deliberately hitting where there were two layers of the steel. Somewhere in there was further chopping with the edge into the corner of the dryer, where the metal folds over and is strongest. No further damage to the edge.

Then I used the pry spike to wrench the back panel off the dryer, ripping it off the screws holding it on. After that, I used the Wrecker to bust a couple of padlocks. It was the same 'hawk that I had previously busted two padlocks, so by the end it had busted four in addition to the other tests. It took more hits in the video to bust the locks than it did the previous two, so the spike had gone through quite a bit of shock by the time I got through. There was some slight deformation to the tip of the spike, but that was it.

The rest of the video was general wailing on the dryer with the edge, spike, and overstriking with the neck of the handle. No further damage, and at the end, it still had a pointy spike and an edge that would make chips fly from hardwood.

So, general conclusion was that it's a cutting tool that does well at wood-chopping duties, and while not indestructible (which would compromise its other desirable properties such as nimbleness and cutting ability), is very tough and should take minor damage without failing catastrophically when used for breaching and vehicle extraction. That's exactly what I was aiming at. We also talked some about combat application, but the main focus of the video was on durability and cutting ability.

Though it does have occasional shots of my shop cat and me being silly since I tend to be a bit dry when I go into "teacher mode". :)
 
Great video. Gonna watch more when back from job.
Anyway - ever managed to break, bend or seriously damage hawk in other way?
 
Idaho - Just saw your question.

I have a customer who has beat the absolute crap out of his 18" War Chief. Here's what he said:

"What a performer!! This thing took everything we dished at it for over an hour and came out intact and meaner than hell. It chewed through various parts of a Chevy Silverado 1500 door. A heavy, thick ceramic kitchen sink. A padlock. Concrete blocks and bricks. Wood. Pig/cow bones purchased for dog chews. I can't even remember what else. The only thing that slowed it down, and chipped it, was taking on 1/4 thick steel hinges on that door. Had we kept at it, the hawk would have won. I am blown away and so happy with the construction of this hawk, James. It is built do everything I wanted it to do, and testing it out first hand was such a pleasure.

I got her sharpened back up, and I love the look of a new grind to the blade and tons of war scars."

And the pictures he took:













I asked him about what seemed to damage the spike and he said:

"I believe there was a section of the truck door that had thicker steel tubing running below the exterior sheet of steel that chipped off the tip of the beard and flattened the spike out a bit. The ceramic sink may have aided in that too- I can't remember- all I remember is that it was early on and then very little else affected the hawk after that :).

I took it to a shop here in town and had it professionally sharpened. "



More recently, " I'm still using it to clear out some of this shower floor, which is a weird concrete-mixture- It's this light brown/pink layer of "stuff" that held 100s of small stones in place- it's hard, but when struck crumbles and chips and everything. The hawk has been taking 1000s of direct blows into that as well as a lot of hits into these rocks." He finally did enough damage to the spike that he took it back to the same shop and had them reshape the spike.







He's still quite happy with it and looking at buying another 'hawk from me.

This is the most abuse I know of one of my 'hawks taking, and I'm morbidly pleased with the outcome. Though built for wood chopping, it withstood far more rigorous cutting without any kind of catastrophic failure and was able to be brought back to a working edge without major reshaping. The spike, a sharply pointed weapon, took damage from the abuse without snapping off and remained functional through it.

That's not a bad new shape to it, either, and would still knock a pretty good hole in a bad guy's skull. :D
 
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