"Tacticool" vs "Pocket Man Jewelry"

This is what I consider pocket jewelry. My only criticism, is that I can't afford it!:D
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I think that most people look for divisions whether they realize it or not. I see it everywhere. Any group that had something in common always finds something to argue about and then breaks into more like-minded subsets. I think it's just human nature to look for allies that think more like you do.
 
danbot said:
This is what I consider pocket jewelry. My only criticism, is that I can't afford it!:D
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Eh. It does not look like a tropical reef fish mated with a brightly colored beetle while being gene spliced with a parrot.

I actually think that is pretty reasonable. Not my taste, but reasonable. I think WH knives are a different niche altogether - they may in fact be art and/or actually jewelry in some cases.
 
jceckrosh said:
I don't think restrained use of high end materials constitutes folding pocket jewelry, and I did not mean to convey that in my initial post. I'm talking the fully loaded knife material fest - unicorn horn, meteorite, timascus, damascus, mokuti, zirkuti, a backspacer made of black rhino bone - all on one knife. Although I'm sure the use of any "exotic" materials could for some mean you have entered folding man jewelry territory. I have a Halo V with three little bits of bamboo as inlays on it, I don't think it's folding pocket jewelry (nevermind that it does not fold). I do think you and I are saying relatively the same thing though.
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Yea I get you. We are saying the same thing i think. You can also get a Sebenza with colorful anodized milled design with a sapphire inlay in the hole. Does it then become less Sebenza and more jewelry?
 
What about a full dress tacticool knife? Best of both worlds?

I think that in each catagory there are things that are done tastefullyand then there is rediculous and ostentatious.

Generally a well thought out tactical knife has purpose behind its design. It may look awkward to somebody who doesn’t know how to use it, but might be perfect for its intended role.

Then there are tacticlol knives like DarkOps where they throw serrations, protrusions and jimping all over to create a tactical image. I think each knife needs to be evaluated on a one to one basis on whether it is tasteful and useful or silly.

For “man jewlery” knives there are certainly knives that are art first and knives second. This is a completely legitimate form of expression in my eyes.

The reason tactical knives get so much hate is mainly because of their marketing. Most knife aficionados don’t like how they create an image in the public’s mind that knives are all weapons of war.
 
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BladeScout said:
You had a good thing going.

Quite a few points in the above, that I can agree with.

Buying knives a objet d'art and not users seems outlandish to me, but people can of course spend their dough, as they see fit.

But then you went and said this - why did you have to go and do that!:D


Kidding - your money, your knives:D
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Mostly, I just can't resist adding a twist, just look how it works for Shyamalan. Seriously though, I want to see how that 90 degree action feels versus most knives with a 180 degree action. I will probably scratch that itch by waiting until they come out with their budget line. Then I will put it to work trimming my roses, because I like doing that with a hawkbill and my neighbors are already used to seeing me do that with a Tasman. They won't even look twice, unless my wife gets me that kilt for our anniversary like she has been threatening.
 
GB940Rookie said:
I just buy what appeals to me. I let others worry about labels.
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Right there with you. I wound up with a couple of "tactical" knives without knowing it, but their appearance was pointed out to me by my cohorts. I have carried traditional folders for about 55 years and still find their overall utility unbeatable. That being said, I carry much larger work knives (ZT 0909, RAT 1, etc.) to use on site as I am big on matching the tool to the job.

I was called out on the tactical knife that appeared on the job one day by someone that saw me using it. I was doing a lot of finer carpentry that day, so I put my Utilitac II with the tanto blade in my pocket. It is a brilliant working knife for wood work as the tanto point makes a very usable/handy pocket wood chisel, and the flat is great for trimming. I was needled immediately, and have to confess I never saw it as a "tactical" blade. Too short, blade too wide, and actually kind of stumpy. Nothing elegant about it. Priced right, I bought it after reading of a few guys here using it for practical uses.

Since I have howled with derision at the double serrated, plastic handled, black painted fighting knives with skulls and neon handles sold at gas stations for years, the boys couldn't resist. So when I got a little defensive, I made it worse by handing to one of my fellow workers. He in turn was delighted. I never connected the dots; while I was busy explaining the utility value of the knife, he was busy telling the guys that it was proudly called the UTILITAC as branded on the blade, which he interpreted (to the obvious amusement of others) could be used in any tactical situation. I heard about it the rest of the day, and for a few days after, "hey Robert, do you have your ninja knife with you? Do you think I would be qualified to use it? Do I need some special training first?" Yikes...

There are enough labels, categories, glorified descriptions and opinions on knives these days I don't even pay attention. If it looks useful and I think I can put it to work, I buy it.

BTW, I now call my Utilitac my "mohel" knife, and after the explanation no one teases me, especially when I tell them they are only used once before being given to a family member.

Robert
 
Tactical knives. Isn’t it OK to dream? Or are people so hung up on what other people think they can’t enjoy what they like? Life’s too short. Buy and carry what makes you happy, just try and keep things in perspective. ie-just because you carry an Emerson doesn’t mean you’re an operator, but it’s fun to dream.
 
TLDR: non-knife people really don't care about what makes a knife tactical or a gent knife
Let me tell you a little story.

One time a person was showing off their gold and platinum chains saying how great it made them feel.

I told them about my Lionsteel Roundhead in White Carbon Fiber. They said that the materials that went into it were cheap, but then I told them that this knife just makes me feel happy and fancy, and my joy is what matters to me.

Yes I'm still upset that he didn't think my knife was cool, but I don't think anyone outside the knife world cares about knife labels or carbon fiber handles (maybe the auto world would i.e.: Birdshot IV)
 
midnight flyer said:
Right there with you. I wound up with a couple of "tactical" knives without knowing it, but their appearance was pointed out to me by my cohorts. I have carried traditional folders for about 55 years and still find their overall utility unbeatable. That being said, I carry much larger work knives (ZT 0909, RAT 1, etc.) to use on site as I am big on matching the tool to the job.

I was called out on the tactical knife that appeared on the job one day by someone that saw me using it. I was doing a lot of finer carpentry that day, so I put my Utilitac II with the tanto blade in my pocket. It is a brilliant working knife for wood work as the tanto point makes a very usable/handy pocket wood chisel, and the flat is great for trimming. I was needled immediately, and have to confess I never saw it as a "tactical" blade. Too short, blade too wide, and actually kind of stumpy. Nothing elegant about it. Priced right, I bought it after reading of a few guys here using it for practical uses.

Since I have howled with derision at the double serrated, plastic handled, black painted fighting knives with skulls and neon handles sold at gas stations for years, the boys couldn't resist. So when I got a little defensive, I made it worse by handing to one of my fellow workers. He in turn was delighted. I never connected the dots; while I was busy explaining the utility value of the knife, he was busy telling the guys that it was proudly called the UTILITAC as branded on the blade, which he interpreted (to the obvious amusement of others) could be used in any tactical situation. I heard about it the rest of the day, and for a few days after, "hey Robert, do you have your ninja knife with you? Do you think I would be qualified to use it? Do I need some special training first?" Yikes...

There are enough labels, categories, glorified descriptions and opinions on knives these days I don't even pay attention. If it looks useful and I think I can put it to work, I buy it.

BTW, I now call my Utilitac my "mohel" knife, and after the explanation no one teases me, especially when I tell them they are only used once before being given to a family member.

Robert
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Are you talking about a moyel? I would have thought you would have got made fun of even more for carrying a moyel’s knife around.
 
jceckrosh said:
but I wonder why there is a sort of dismissive attitude towards "tactical" knives but you don't see the same thing in regards to "full dress"
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I think the dismissive attitude that you've witnessed is a reaction to the hype that sometimes surrounds tactical knives. There are tactical knives that are intelligently designed, marketed and carried. However, there are also a lot of the opposite. Questionable designs, extreme marketing strategies, and user hype turn off a lot of knife enthusiasts. Some react with a dismissive attitude; whereas others just ignore it all and buy what they like.

In contrast, the "pocket jewelry" segment of the knife market isn't surrounded by nearly as much hype or controversy. I think that makes it easier for knife enthusiasts who don't like it to just ignore it without reacting.
 
I like practical knives. If I see a knife, that I think will suit my needs, I buy it. I don't care what the label says or how it was marketed. All I care about it is if I like it.
 
Lapedog said:
Are you talking about a moyel? I would have thought you would have got made fun of even more for carrying a moyel’s knife around.
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Nope. Don't know what a "moyel" is.

This is what I was talking about: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohel

And no, when they thought I was serious about carrying a knife that had circumcised a baby boy, all fun on their part stopped. Actually, they were very weirded out when they thought I was being serious, then they thought I was in need of some counseling. Finally, someone told them I was screwing with them and ruined my joke on them. They were had, they knew it, and it hasn't come up since.

All in good fun.

Robert
 
midnight flyer said:
Nope. Don't know what a "moyel" is.

This is what I was talking about: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohel

And no, when they thought I was serious about carrying a knife that had circumcised a baby boy, all fun on their part stopped. Actually, they were very weirded out when they thought I was being serious, then they thought I was in need of some counseling. Finally, someone told them I was screwing with them and ruined my joke on them. They were had, they knew it, and it hasn't come up since.

All in good fun.

Robert
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You and Lape are talking about the same type of knife - a circumcision implement as used by a 'mohel.'

According to the below, 'mohel' rhymes with 'boil' hence (maybe) the misunderstanding/difference in spelling?

Random article on the subject
https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/the-mohel/
 
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