Talonite?

sirgrumps · Jan 13, 2000

I saw a picture of a carnivore in talonite. What is talonite? Is it the material of the scales?

leroys_45 · Jan 13, 2000

talonite was the blade material. it is a unique metal that i don't know too much about, but i believe it has high amounts of cobalt. it is basically corrosion proof, holds an edge a long time, yet its best working hardness for knife blades is in the mid 50's. this is all from memory, so i may be a little off.

just remembered where i got most of that above. www.simonichknives.com/idxtest.htm click on talonite on the navigation area on the left. then click on "talonite bar stock for sale". there's plenty of info there. you also might want to do a search in the discussion forum, there's been plenty of talk about the stuff.

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sirgrumps · Jan 13, 2000

How does it compare to other blade materials, like ATS-34 or M2 or even AUS-8? Why is being used by so few people? Is it proprietary? Is it a lot more expensive?

leroys_45 · Jan 13, 2000

it's my understanding that it's in the class of 440V, D2, and that range, so it's above ATS-34, M2, and way above AUS-8. some people don't like it, i can't comment personnally as i don't have any blades in it. it is more expensive than many other steels and therefore the knives aren't cheap. so far only a few companies or makers are using it, so it's not in widespread circulation. you might want to get some opinions from people over on the general forum. i just read a post from sal glesser of spyderco that they might play with it in the future.

Jim March · Jan 13, 2000

For the record, Talonite is NOT STEEL.

By definition. Because it lacks iron; steel is an iron alloy, this stuff is a COBALT alloy.

Hideously expensive, but for certain purposes it's supposedly the absolute ultimate.

Jim

JoHnYKwSt · Jan 14, 2000

The people who have used talonite have never looked back. So far Camillus is the only company using talonite. It is hard to grind and is very expensive. It's not so much that people do not like it, it that they are skeptical. As I am. Skeptical mainly because of the materials softness. Talonite will hold an edge many many times longer than ATS-34 for usual cutting tasks. 440V, although better than ATS34, will not hold an edge as long as talonite does. "If a tool steel will hold an edge for 6-8 hours, Talonite will hold an edge for 10-14 days."

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Samurai6 · Jan 14, 2000

Talonite has its plusses and minusses like anything else. Its plusses are that it will not corrode, and it holds an edge for a damn long time if you cut soft stuff with it. Its primary minus from my point of view, is that it is significantly weaker than steel, and you can't grind a thin, efficient edge on a Talonite blade if you want to be hard on it. Having said that, I have a Cobalt knife with a thin edge, and I like it just fine. It takes a fair edge, and it cuts pretty well. I just don't cut anything hard with it. If you leave the edge thick and strong, Talonite is quite durable, but expect just OK cutting efficiency.

Allen Blade · Jan 14, 2000

Hello,

Mr. harvey Just "OK" cutting Performance?

The Talonite i have Ground and made has outcut anything i have put it up against.

Including, Any and all Heat treated 01,1095,
D2, Ats-34, A2, 5160,M2,L6,1084,S7,440V,440A,
440b,440c, Ect,,ect,,,

In a small utility blade it out cuts larger blades with ease.

Leave the Edge at about 22 thousandth and it works just fine..

my .02

Allen Blade