tang ramp on wenger question...

You know how the tang ramp (i think thats what you call it) on the Starmate isnt flat, but kinda concave. Where the liner lick hits the tang. Does the Wenger Jr. have this feature? Also, are the screws that hold the clip on screwed into the metal liner? Thank you.
Dan
 
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Dan, I am not sure about your question concerning the LinerLock. As far as the clip screws, sadly, they DO NOT go into the liner. They only go into the G-10. For the avaerage person, that is plenty strong. I have a friend who won't carry his any longer because the clip screws have stripped the thread from the G-10. He said he is going to return it to Spyderco for repair. It's just a question of when.

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Dan,

On my Wegner Jr, the tang looks flat (might be my bad eyes tho), but is definitely angled.

I understand from previous posts, that the clip screws thread into the G-10, not into the liner.
 
All of the C49's that we have recieved at Blade-Tech this past year have the clip screw threads tapped and screwed all the way into the liner. I,m not sure how many were shipped prior to the fix being made. I do know that I have C49 combo-edged knives in stock with plain edge to be in sometime in NOV/DEC. As far as I know the clips were also to be tapped into the liners on the C48, but we wont see them until the current production run is depleted.
I can say this, we have sold somewhere in the neighborhood of two thousand plus knives and I have only had 2-3 come back with stipped liners. I've seen a few of the C48's that had the clips snap off altogether and all we had to do was send out a new clip.(These were not tapped into the liner).

Sal may have more to ad to this.

Thanks!
Tim Wegner
 
Thank you for your responces. I just got confused because some say they are threaded into the liner, while others say the screws are just threaded into the G10. I really, really, like this knife a lot! However, i dont think i would get one if they didnt screw into the metal liner. Im just picky when it comes to things like that.
Dan
 
Alright. Let' s get this squared once and for all. Many months back in one of my threads I made the same inquiry and Sal unequivocally stated that ALL the Wegners should have their clip screws threaded into their liners. Both of mine are not. But I haven' t experienced any problems with them thus far. So I never felt the need to send them back as Sal had suggested. But I did notice on one of them that there is definitely a noticeable gap between the G10 scale and the liner! This is quite visible when you look into the holes with the clip and screws removed. Hmmm... something is faulty here. Perhaps I have some earlier models that did not have the liners threaded if this is in fact the case. Sal, please put this to rest.

L8r,
Nakano
 
On the Starmate, the clip screws go into the liner and the tang ramp is concave. Learned this trick from Bob Terzuola when he taught me to make Linerlocks.

On all other designs with G10 or micarta, the clip screws are designed to go into a liner. This design direction was in question because the Goddard Micarta version never had a liner and rarely had a problem.

So some of the early production on some of the G10 and micarta models were screwed into the G10 or Micarta without including a liner. On most of these, we eventually added the liner. On the models that were already out there with screws not going into the liner or without a liner, we just take care of the customer if they have a problem. In reality, there have been relatively few problems.

All G10 and Micarta handles currently in production have a liner and the clip screws are screwed into same.

Adding a liner to a model adds, weight, thickness and cost. Three things that are not usually considered desirable. Making something fatter and heavier and more exspensive does not necessarily make it better quality. We add material based on safety and strength and sometimes it just takes time in the field to determine the strength needs. Hope this helps.

We make pretty good product, and we stand behind it. At least as good and in most cases better than most of our competitors. The company operates on the assumption that it is possible to be successful in todays marketplace without cutting corners on product quality or being deceptive in what is being provided.

I recognize and understand the marketing "game", but in reality it is the performance of the product and the company that will ultimately determine at what level the company operates.

I am pleased to say that we do have a number of esteemed competitors that also try hard to put out good product. This has created the drive to always improve and refine in all of us. As an industry, we are making better product than has ever before been produced. I hope it continues.

sal
 
We make pretty good product, and we stand behind it. At least as good and in most cases better than most of
our competitors. The company operates on the assumption that it is possible to be successful in todays
marketplace without cutting corners on product quality or being deceptive in what is being provided.

I recognize and understand the marketing "game", but in reality it is the performance of the product and the
company that will ultimately determine at what level the company operates.

I am pleased to say that we do have a number of esteemed competitors that also try hard to put out good
product. This has created the drive to always improve and refine in all of us. As an industry, we are making
better product than has ever before been produced. I hope it continues.

Mr Glesser,

Thank you for a very positive approach to competition.

I applaud you for taking the High Ground and not attacking your competition in an effort to make your product look better. I believe that Spyderco will definitely prosper with such a positive approach.


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