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I'm not going on vacation to a local seaside resort this year, can't take off from work until September, usually go in July (Ocean Shitty). I plan on getting at least a couple of weekends camping in, at local parks.

Money is a big part of it too.


http://www.cnn.com/2009/TRAVEL/03/26/camping.economy/index.html

Susan Lanier has always enjoyed getting out of her urban home in Chicago, Illinois.


Camping is a cheap travel alternative to staying in a hotel.

But her travel plan for this spring -- which includes riding on a Greyhound bus and camping in a national park -- is a new, more frugal version of how the 22-year-old would normally spend a vacation.

"I'm in school and usually I'll do some sort of trip, but usually I'll go to a beach or something or I'll fly to New York," she said by phone while hitching a ride on a band's tour bus, headed toward the Smoky Mountains of Tennessee. "But [finances have] just been tight, and this is a cheap way to get out of the city and do something fun."

With the economy in a slump, camping seems to be grabbing a new foothold in the travel industry. Once considered by many to be an activity for nerdy families, nature geeks and Boy Scouts, sleeping outside in a tent has become chic -- likely because it is so much cheaper than paying for a hotel room.

The activity also strikes a new chord with Americans who want to get back to basics after an era of excess and overspending.

Outdoor camping's popularity jumped 7.4 percent between 2007 and 2008, according to a report from the Sporting Goods Manufacturers Association. Overnight backpacking is up 18.5 percent, the report said.


"That's a significant change," said Mike May, the association's spokesman. "One thing about camping is once you buy a tent, you don't need to buy another one for a long time. It can be an inexpensive way to spend some recreational time."

The group estimated there are 33.7 million campers in the country. May said he expects that number to continue to increase this year.

REI, the outdoor equipment company, said tent and sleeping bag sales are up this season, particularly when it comes to larger tents designed for three- and four-person families.

So far this spring, family tent sales are up 14 percent over last year, said Rick Meade, REI's product manager for sleeping bags and tents. For March, sales are up 28 percent over the same month in 2008.

"We have a great sense that there is a resurgent interest in [camping], especially on the family camping side," Meade said.

State parks are among the cheapest places to sleep under the stars.

Many of the parks, which either are free or charge entry fees of about $10 per day, are seeing increased interest from tourists and campers, according to Phil McKnelly, executive director of the National Association of State Park Directors.

"Whether you're talking about wanting to go to the ocean or the mountains, those are kinds of activities that can be done in a state park at a relatively low cost," he said. "For the cost of one of two nights in a hotel, you can spend a week in a state park."

Still, the financial crisis is affecting states' abilities to manage their park systems.

Most states have seen their parks budgets slashed by 10 to 15 percent, McKnelly said. That means fewer park employees, which translates into dirtier restrooms and trails blocked by fallen trees, he said.

The Texas Parks and Wildlife Department began offering classes for first-time campers last year. Interest in the program, which teaches basic skills like how to pitch a tent and dispose of trash in an eco-friendly way, has been high, said Tom Harvey, spokesman for the department.

So far the state has offered the program to more than 1,200 people, according to the department. iReport.com: How are you having fun for free?

"We'll hold them by the hand and we'll show 'em how to pitch a tent," he said. "It's been very popular."

Harvey said the camping movement is geared at more than recreation. People who live in cities often don't understand natural systems, which he said can lead to detached and unhappy lives.

"We are now, most of us, creatures of the urban jungle and we're losing our connection with the natural world, with reality," he said, adding that camping helps fix that.

In California, many state parks are booked well into the spring, said Sheryl Watson, spokeswoman for California State Parks.

On the first day reservations became available, 20,407 people reserved a July trip to a California state park, she said. That's up nearly 13 percent over last year's reservation numbers. By comparison, reservations were up 4 percent from 2007 to 2008.

Watson said parks near the state's urban centers are especially popular, because camping can be an inexpensive way for someone to visit a city like San Francisco, where hotels can cost 10 or 20 times the price of a camping spot.

That idea also applies to international level, where hotel costs can add up over a long stay.

The economy has given people like Lanier, the student in Chicago, an excuse to spend more time outdoors. The last time she went camping was six years ago, in high school.

Lanier said she bikes around Chicago often, but the city's best outdoor offering is Lake Michigan, and that still feels pretty urban, she said.

Lanier is studying fiction writing in a masters' program, and said she plans to record her campfire conversations with her traveling buddy, who plays in a band called I Need Sleep and will also offer some free musical entertainment.

She hitched a ride on the band's tour bus to Tennessee. The only part of the trip she dreads is the $50, 18-hour return trip by Greyhound bus.

While she felt pressured into the trip by the economy, she said that may be a good thing in the end.

"It just seems like an adventure -- something different," she said.
 
i spent an entire summer when i was 21 camping in all the national parks economic to say the least it cost me about 500-600 bucks overall for 7 weeks of camping and driving including a national parks pass!
 
That is how my gf and I prefer to travel. Pack up the car, and away we go. She used to say that roughing it to her meant a 3 star hotel. Now she bugs me about when we are going out next. Last summer we went to from Maryland to Glacier, to Colorado, to Nebraska, to South Dakota, to Kentucky, then home. We were gone 2 months. The whole trip cost us maybe 1,000 total. Since we both work for the public school system, cheap and long trips are perfect for us.
 
That is how my gf and I prefer to travel. Pack up the car, and away we go. She used to say that roughing it to her meant a 3 star hotel. Now she bugs me about when we are going out next. Last summer we went to from Maryland to Glacier, to Colorado, to Nebraska, to South Dakota, to Kentucky, then home. We were gone 2 months. The whole trip cost us maybe 1,000 total. Since we both work for the public school system, cheap and long trips are perfect for us.
What part of Kentucky were you in ?
 
My wench and I are saving up to move to Costa Rica in couple of years. Great country, low cost of living and lots of outdoor activities.
 
No better place I would spend my freetime then in the timber. I have no use for resorts. :thumbdn:
Scott
 
There are even places still where there are unattended no-fee and dispersed camping- the eastern side of the Sierra being one. Cheaper than cheap.
 
I'm conflicted about my feelings for the article. On the one hand, it is awesome that renewed interest is being injected into our parks system. Not only park fees coming in, but a growing appreciation that hopefully translates into political will to protect and expand systems. I've thought it curious how many people I know who say they take international trips to visit exotic jungles and forests but never take the time to appreciate the rustic beauty of their own natural landscape.

The selfish side of me things - oh great. Twenty percent more traffic on the trails, twenty percent more dimwits that are so used to city anti-social behaviour that they will not understand the need for courtesy and respect in the woods. Twenty percent more dimwits also means 50 percent more bureaucracy and park managers race to develop new policies to nip in the bud all dim-wit activities. Of course, soon this means things like - stay on the trail and don't you dare take a footstep off that boardwalk. Closing off back country areas for re-growth because too much traffic. Demanding that people wear clothing while swimming :D Additional restrictions on fires or even presence of knives :O

Okay, I'm being melodramatic. Still, it the public at large (i.e. humanity) is fundamentally ignorant and stupid. There are going to be a bunch of folks out there who really do think that taking a camping trip is the equivalent as going to the beach and staying at a hotel and will plan for both in about the same fashion.

It would be really great if the government could nip this whole thing in the bud and start educating folks. Make outdoor education a serious part of the Phys-Ed curriculum and teach them skills. In twenty years, the kids will probably be better off knowing how to pitch a tent than being able to serve a volleyball....
 
I'm conflicted about my feelings for the article. On the one hand, it is awesome that renewed interest is being injected into our parks system. Not only park fees coming in, but a growing appreciation that hopefully translates into political will to protect and expand systems. I've thought it curious how many people I know who say they take international trips to visit exotic jungles and forests but never take the time to appreciate the rustic beauty of their own natural landscape.

The selfish side of me things - oh great. Twenty percent more traffic on the trails, twenty percent more dimwits that are so used to city anti-social behaviour that they will not understand the need for courtesy and respect in the woods. Twenty percent more dimwits also means 50 percent more bureaucracy and park managers race to develop new policies to nip in the bud all dim-wit activities. Of course, soon this means things like - stay on the trail and don't you dare take a footstep off that boardwalk. Closing off back country areas for re-growth because too much traffic. Demanding that people wear clothing while swimming :D Additional restrictions on fires or even presence of knives :O

Okay, I'm being melodramatic. Still, it the public at large (i.e. humanity) is fundamentally ignorant and stupid. There are going to be a bunch of folks out there who really do think that taking a camping trip is the equivalent as going to the beach and staying at a hotel and will plan for both in about the same fashion.

It would be really great if the government could nip this whole thing in the bud and start educating folks. Make outdoor education a serious part of the Phys-Ed curriculum and teach them skills. In twenty years, the kids will probably be better off knowing how to pitch a tent than being able to serve a volleyball....

Damn bro, you took the words right out of my mouth. Well said!!
 
iI hate the city i hate hotels, i hate resorts. Give me a dry spot under a big cedar tree with a tarp leanto, a fire and a couple of knives and an my ax and i am very happy. Here in BC the Totalitarian Comptrollers decided to close all the remote forestry campsites, and start gating all the logging/backcountry roads. So a lot of neat sites are gone, but there is still many areas where one can drive up a decommissioned road , find a pull out and set up a camp. FREE.
 
iI hate the city i hate hotels, i hate resorts. Give me a dry spot under a big cedar tree with a tarp leanto, a fire and a couple of knives and an my ax and i am very happy. Here in BC the Totalitarian Comptrollers decided to close all the remote forestry campsites, and start gating all the logging/backcountry roads. So a lot of neat sites are gone, but there is still many areas where one can drive up a decommissioned road , find a pull out and set up a camp. FREE.

Bushman, I remember those days in Northern Ontario. There are still pockets of accessible crownland out there but you have to know how to get to them. When I moved to S. Ontario it sort of freaked me out to have to spend $26/night camping in the provincial parks. I look at those fees now as part of the sustainability plan. Still, I do miss the 'frontier' days when I could leave my Apartment from New Sudbury, 410 in its gun case over the shoulder and just start walking. After 25 min., I was on crown land and could take my bag of grouse. I haven't been back to Sudbury in a decade, but I imagine it is very different now.
 
I'm conflicted about my feelings for the article. On the one hand, it is awesome that renewed interest is being injected into our parks system. Not only park fees coming in, but a growing appreciation that hopefully translates into political will to protect and expand systems. I've thought it curious how many people I know who say they take international trips to visit exotic jungles and forests but never take the time to appreciate the rustic beauty of their own natural landscape.

The selfish side of me things - oh great. Twenty percent more traffic on the trails, twenty percent more dimwits that are so used to city anti-social behaviour that they will not understand the need for courtesy and respect in the woods. Twenty percent more dimwits also means 50 percent more bureaucracy and park managers race to develop new policies to nip in the bud all dim-wit activities. Of course, soon this means things like - stay on the trail and don't you dare take a footstep off that boardwalk. Closing off back country areas for re-growth because too much traffic. Demanding that people wear clothing while swimming :D Additional restrictions on fires or even presence of knives :O

Okay, I'm being melodramatic. Still, it the public at large (i.e. humanity) is fundamentally ignorant and stupid. There are going to be a bunch of folks out there who really do think that taking a camping trip is the equivalent as going to the beach and staying at a hotel and will plan for both in about the same fashion.

It would be really great if the government could nip this whole thing in the bud and start educating folks. Make outdoor education a serious part of the Phys-Ed curriculum and teach them skills. In twenty years, the kids will probably be better off knowing how to pitch a tent than being able to serve a volleyball....


90% of those people aren't going to get further than drive in campgrounds with shower facilities- pretty much exactly like going to the beach (CA has state beaches with... well, drive up camping and showers)

the other 10% will learn.

And hopefully, a new influx of users will create both more resilient people and increased attention for funding and management of our wilderness areas.
 
I hope you are right Koyote, and you probably are. They really are buying their parking fee so they can park.

I guess I just get crotchety sometimes :D By the time I get to Doc's age I'll just be a plain mean SOB!
 
I hope you are right Koyote, and you probably are. They really are buying their parking fee so they can park.

I guess I just get crotchety sometimes :D By the time I get to Doc's age I'll just be a plain mean SOB![/QUOTE]

Of course, why would you be any different?

Doc :D
 
In regards to resorts, I usually end up going for a long weekend. The aforementioned OC is crowded, expensive (crappy food and products), and you can't enjoy yourself. I go down to spend time with family and friends, it's more tradition than anything else. I drag my father, brother, uncle and sometimes my cousin fishing, if they acquiesce to go. Most of the time, I'm out puttering around Assateague Island and the rest of the eastern shore. Granted, that A/C is nice after a long hot day, but I can't stand the hustle bustle. In the past couple years, I've taken the pups with me, and they absolutely hate it. They don't like to leave the apartment, even for walks. Take them across the Assawoman bay bridge, they love it. It used to be a love/hate relationship, not anymore, all hate.
 
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