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Tenacious or Persistence with S30V ??

Slightly OT, but I'd like to know from Sal's interaction with the industry player, if the blades coming from China marked as 440C are really actually 440C or 8Cr / 9Cr disguised as 440C? More in the actual capability to obtain the steel, HT them and sell them at such low cost than their habit of 'misslabelling'.

A good examples are made in China Bokers. Some of them are labelled 440C.
 
Chris "Anagarika";14023528 said:
Slightly OT, but I'd like to know from Sal's interaction with the industry player, if the blades coming from China marked as 440C are really actually 440C or 8Cr / 9Cr disguised as 440C? More in the actual capability to obtain the steel, HT them and sell them at such low cost than their habit of 'misslabelling'.

A good examples are made in China Bokers. Some of them are labelled 440C.
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I guess one way or the other, it's shiny footsteps Chris. :)
 
That's why I love this forum. We have a reasonable request, respectful answers, and even the owner of the company takes time to get to know some of the posters and interacts with us as much as possible. Well done everyone.

Sal, you've gained a customer for life from me. Thank you!
 
Chris "Anagarika";14024587 said:
Well, I did some googling and found some old threads in BF. Let's just say going with Spyderco is the safest bet. :D
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I will agree with you on that point for sure. And though I am loath to enjoy the less than stellar offerings from China in most regards, I really can't knock Spyderco's.
 
Jaidmaster said:
I could be wrong, but what I'm hearing is that the OP likes the design of the Ten/Per better than anything else in the Spyderco lineup, regardless of price, and would like to have the option of a better steel...??
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That's why I would buy one, the model design is amongst my favorites. I totally understand why it is difficult, and Im absolutely positive that they would make it if it made business sense. This gets asked all the time and even Singularity has asked for a different steel version if I recall ;) you never know maybe the oppurtunity arises some day and they may surprise us. It doesnt have to be S30v either... VG10, 154CM level would be nice too.
 
Chris "Anagarika";14024587 said:
Well, I did some googling and found some old threads in BF. Let's just say going with Spyderco is the safest bet. :D
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Tdhurl1103 said:
I will agree with you on that point for sure. And though I am loath to enjoy the less than stellar offerings from China in most regards, I really can't knock Spyderco's.
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Yup, if I have to go with 8Cr, I can't lose with Spyderco.

About the steel upgrade, I was one of those who clamored before for a different steel. I actually asked for 52100 (because I like the steel and it's different enough from 8Cr to make it interesting for me to get, and finally because it's not a costly steel)but Mr. G said that he was concerned about inconsistent heat treat. I would buy a tenacious is a carbon steel at about the same price point. I wouldn't buy one, even with a steel upgrade(like s30v), at around a $100 price point. I'd get a para 2 instead(ooops, I have one or two already).
 
singularity35 said:
Yup, if I have to go with 8Cr, I can't lose with Spyderco.

About the steel upgrade, I was one of those who clamored before for a different steel. I actually asked for 52100 (because I like the steel and it's different enough from 8Cr to make it interesting for me to get, and finally because it's not a costly steel)but Mr. G said that he was concerned about inconsistent heat treat. I would buy a tenacious is a carbon steel at about the same price point. I wouldn't buy one, even with a steel upgrade(like s30v), at around a $100 price point. I'd get a para 2 instead(ooops, I have one or two already).
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Agreed. I really just love the Persistence's overall design and would love one with a tad better steel blade.
 
singularity35 said:
Yup, if I have to go with 8Cr, I can't lose with Spyderco.

About the steel upgrade, I was one of those who clamored before for a different steel. I actually asked for 52100 (because I like the steel and it's different enough from 8Cr to make it interesting for me to get, and finally because it's not a costly steel)but Mr. G said that he was concerned about inconsistent heat treat. I would buy a tenacious is a carbon steel at about the same price point. I wouldn't buy one, even with a steel upgrade(like s30v), at around a $100 price point. I'd get a para 2 instead(ooops, I have one or two already).
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Now I remember we talked about 52100, although I am not sure if it's about these series.
I've been also 'encouraging' a friend to do blade replacement :D.
A full convex 52100 Tenacious or Resilience .... Hmmm :p
 
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