Thanks for all the threads that basically claim my great old knives are now obsolete useless trash !

Below is my Buck 112 that a bought when I first joined the Merchant Marines, That was 1983. I used/abused this knife, and only this knife, as a ships Engineer for years to cut valve packing, gasket material,IMG_1359.JPGIMG_1361.JPG rope, etc.. I broke the tip off so I reground it. Now that I have made a few knifes I modified the tip further so it works very well for removing the epoxy line that forms at the ricasso. Is it useless junk no, it is not. I have lots of knives and I would be upset if this one disappeared.
 
Olumin said:
Eventually they'll come up with some shape shifting nano-tech metal that will never get dull & will never break. Only then will I consider my old knives obsolete.
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I'm still holding out for my micro-electric machine chainsaw blade that will cut anyone in half if it accidentally deploys.
 
donnord said:
Below is my Buck 112 that a bought when I first joined the Merchant Marines, That was 1983. I used/abused this knife, and only this knife, as a ships Engineer for years to cut valve packing, gasket material,View attachment 2208604View attachment 2208605 rope, etc.. I broke the tip off so I reground it. Now that I have made a few knifes I modified the tip further so it works very well for removing the epoxy line that forms at the ricasso. Is it useless junk no, it is not. I have lots of knives and I would be upset if this one disappeared.
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donnord, let me get this strait;

You used a knife for the better part of 40 years, traveling the high sea's, even though its long past 440 series blade is as outmoded as flint, and to top it all off, with no thumb stud/hole, you had to pull the blade out manually?????

My hats off to you, sir. You traveled far with an antique old Buck knife!🫡
 
rhino said:
You got me! Of course, I probably just went with the 110 because . . . it's awesome.
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You weren’t wrong lots of people probably see the 110 as an old design. It’s just a matter of perspective.
 
Sagandavis said:
I haven’t seen any threads calling old steel trash… I see more threads like this trying to create that narrative. It surprises me that people in the knife world don’t celebrate that steel technology is increasing and now designed specifically for knife use.
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Agreed. Older corded drills work fine, but it's nice to have a cordless option.

It seems to me (i.e. my opinion) that there are generally three camps:

1. People who try to justify not buying high end knives or knives incorporating the "latest & greatest" by putting them down.

2. People who try to justify buying high end knives or knives incorporating the "latest and greatest" by putting down less expensive or older knives.

3. People that just enjoy buying what they want and what they like using.

No shame in buying a buck because you can't afford a CRK. No shame in buying a CRK because you can afford it and want something different or with some feature (i.e. newer steel, thumb studs, etc.).

I can take a piece of rusty leaf spring, grind an edge, and harden it. That doesn't mean it's the only knife around worth a damn or that a more refined offering is a waste.

Newer steels do have different properties than older ones. In some ways, YES, they are better. That doesn't mean your 1095 hunting knife is obsolete, but it does mean that a knife in
cpm cruwear will probably hold an edge longer and be less susceptible to rust. That 1095 blade will still cut, chop, and skin whatever you need it to.

Just enjoy YOUR knife. Comparison is the thief of joy.
 
I'm going to speak to Spark Spark about starting a sub-forum just for Luddites.

(And before any of you make a crack that we already have one called the "Traditional Forum", remember, vee haf vays to make your life hell.)

I like all my knives, from those with "simple" carbon steels through MagnaCut. They all get the job done...to greater or lesser degrees.
 
carnifex knifeworks said:
Agreed. Older corded drills work fine, but it's nice to have a cordless option.

It seems to me (i.e. my opinion) that there are generally three camps:

1. People who try to justify not buying high end knives or knives incorporating the "latest & greatest" by putting them down.

2. People who try to justify buying high end knives or knives incorporating the "latest and greatest" by putting down less expensive or older knives.

3. People that just enjoy buying what they want and what they like using.

No shame in buying a buck because you can't afford a CRK. No shame in buying a CRK because you can afford it and want something different or with some feature (i.e. newer steel, thumb studs, etc.).

I can take a piece of rusty leaf spring, grind an edge, and harden it. That doesn't mean it's the only knife around worth a damn or that a more refined offering is a waste.

Newer steels do have different properties than older ones. In some ways, YES, they are better. That doesn't mean your 1095 hunting knife is obsolete, but it does mean that a knife in
cpm cruwear will probably hold an edge longer and be less susceptible to rust. That 1095 blade will still cut, chop, and skin whatever you need it to.

Just enjoy YOUR knife. Comparison is the thief of joy.
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Great post. I agree completely
 
jackknife said:
donnord, let me get this strait;

You used a knife for the better part of 40 years, traveling the high sea's, even though its long past 440 series blade is as outmoded as flint, and to top it all off, with no thumb stud/hole, you had to pull the blade out manually?????

My hats off to you, sir. You traveled far with an antique old Buck knife!🫡
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I still use it regularly for cutting up cardboard for recycling. But its really my garage knife so it still gets abused.
jackknife said:
donnord, let me get this strait;

You used a knife for the better part of 40 years, traveling the high sea's, even though its long past 440 series blade is as outmoded as flint, and to top it all off, with no thumb stud/hole, you had to pull the blade out manually?????

My hats off to you, sir. You traveled far with an antique old Buck knife!🫡
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Blues said:
I'm going to speak to Spark Spark about starting a sub-forum just for Luddites.

(And before any of you make a crack that we already have one called the "Traditional Forum", remember, vee haf vays to make your life hell.)

I like all my knives, from those with "simple" carbon steels through MagnaCut. They all get the job done...to greater or lesser degrees.
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Count me in. CPM 154 is as advanced as I have in my collection.
 
It’s all good. From carbon tool steel to the last Laconico I own or whatever. I’m never aware of knife steel when I use one. Only when I sharpen one. Harder steels takes longer to work up a keen edge.

I have many knives, for work and EDC, so rarely work a knife at one session long enough to dull it. And usually catch it quickly enough a touch up on a Sharpmaker will do.
 
Blues said:
I'm going to speak to Spark Spark about starting a sub-forum just for Luddites.

(And before any of you make a crack that we already have one called the "Traditional Forum", remember, vee haf vays to make your life hell.)

I like all my knives, from those with "simple" carbon steels through MagnaCut. They all get the job done...to greater or lesser degrees.
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I think "Neo-Luddites" might fit us better. Most of us only shun technology when it's convenient to do so.

GUILTY! (says the guy with the flip phone)
 
It's only been fairly recently that we've gotten a plethora of steels designed specifically for very specific uses, such as razors and knives. I think that's great. We've gotten incredible performance gains compared to what the knife world looked like just 40 or even 20 years ago. Even compared to 10 years ago when s30v was the hot "super steel". Now you can find it in mid priced offerings. It's not just the knife steel that's improved it's also the manufacturing and heat treat processes.

I would agree safety, comfort and ease of use are primary driving factors behind knife performance. I would add durability and edge longevity too. It's not that older items don't t work. It's that they dont t work as well. I don't see anyone arguing that a 30 year old car can't drive you around but rather that it wouldn't drive you around with the same safety, comfort, features, and reliability that a new one would. Same deal for blades.

Also so what even if newer knives do objectively perform better? Do what you want, buy what you want, use what knife you want to use for what you want to use it for. I think more options are only a good thing. Same for competition in the market. Suspiciously I haven't noticed big improvements in razors or box cutters, planned obsolesce perhaps?
 
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