The 18th Century model. Pix for those who have never seen this one.

It is the same in pilot town.People have left their radios to recharge overnight for years.None has gone missing.These cost about $500.00.No one has stolen since 1984 to my knowledge. That came out wrong.I do not think that there has been any thefts.I started going in 1984.Ron was there in `73;samo samo.

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I should be more carefull with people who deal with the Lakota,Blackfoot,or Yaqui.You are a long way from home yvsa.May blessings follow you.

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Yvsa

Thanks for the explaination of the signature and the meaning of your name.
I am not able to trace heritage back very far. Names for myself and sister were chosen with little thought for their meaning, probably more for popularity at the time.
Living up to a name given to you sounds interesting.
Thank you
Jim

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What? Another knife? Don't you have enough of those things already?
How many does one person need?
And just what are you going to do with this one that you can't do with the others?
What is the purpose of all these knives anyhow??

 
Very interesting stuff. Yvsa, the Sherpas and American Indians would get along great. Probably because they are related.

Uncle Bill
 
If there are any left of the remaining three
coming in please log me in. I sent an email
this morning.

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Thanks Jim.
Having a name to live up to isn't all that it is cracked up to be.
Sometimes starting that Fire is a hard thing to do.Most of our kids are better or it though and that is pleasing now.It wasn't always so nice when the Fire was first started.
I do think that more good than harm has come from it.

I have heard that said ofen about the Rendevous Mike.
We try to go to what they call a Rendevous here...
(and there are some really nice "real" ones around.)... at the Gilcrease Museum.They have many of the things that they do at a Gatherin,but mostly this is a good place to buy sell or trade items.
Wes works for Woolaroc up by Bartlesville and lives in an encampment out where the Buffalo roam (literally) from April to September.He lives in a Tipi and has the peace and quiet of the old days after 5:00 p.m. until 10:00 a.m.
I sometimes envy him 'till he starts tellin some of the Buffalo stories.
Not being a young man anymore I couldn't do the things he does.

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I should be more carefull with people who deal with the Lakota,Blackfoot,or Yaqui.You are a long way from home yvsa.May blessings follow you.

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Thak you ghostsir.
I like to think that I am a long "when" from home instead of a long way from there though.

I do have to say that everywhere I have been and the people I have met
have been very warm and welcomeing and respectful to this old Cherokee.
Sharing meat always means you are a relative it seems.That seems to be true even out of the states I am learning.

You are right Uncle Bill.
We are all related. All peoples were tribal once upon a time.
It is too bad that the arguments in the world have escalated beyond a good Horse,a good Knife and a good Woman,not necessarily in that order.
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>>>>---¥vsa---->®
The civilized man sleeps behind locked doors in the city while the naked savage sleeps (with a knife) in a open hut in the jungle.
 
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The standard WOW comes to voice after this one came today.
Actually it was more of a Whhoooaaa.

It is big at 19" and not light,but has a much different "feel" in the hand than the 18" AK. There is not hardly enough difference in weight for me to tell them apart,but the 18th.Century has a "lighter" balance.
It was fairly sharp and has a thinner edge than the 18" AK too.
Very useable sized karda & chakma.

The 18" AK is "scary sharp" and this one is now "full body shiver sharp"
If I didn't have the 18" AK this on could easiy be my favorite.
I will check it out in a few days and let y'all know how it cuts.

I am sure with the thinner edge it is gonna cut much deeper than the 18" AK,but I could be fooled.It just looks as if it would penetrate deeper. The blade appears more like the WW II blade on the Hanuman,where there is a straighter edge to the point than the 18" AK. The 18" AK has a nice rounded "leaf" shape.This little diffeence is the reason I could be fooled.

Those hatchmarks have to be put in while the blade is golden hot I would think.That's a bit hotter than "cherry red."
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There is no evidence of any kind of machining to get them on the blade.
Another puzzleing,to us,thing the Kamis are able to do.I am also wondering if the blade will show useing scratches like the polished or satin ones do.I know my AK isn't as bad since I deceided to use the Scotch Brite. I think it is easier to maintain for me too,others will differ.
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I'm sure I will be writing that If you want a big one that works well,a tad lighter than the AK that this would be the one.
It is also definitely a collectors Kuhkuri with the hatchmarks.They add a certain mystical quality to the blade.



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>>>>---¥vsa---->®
The civilized man sleeps behind locked doors in the city while the naked savage sleeps (with a knife) in a open hut in the jungle.
 
Hatchmarks, a definite YES! I second your sentiment, Rusty. Now, if only I can put my finances in order so I can get one of these in the not-too-far future.

Uncle, are these still coming in the carved wooden scabbards?

- Sonam
 

Yvsa, it sounds like there is a continuum of sharp:

Not sharp
Hair-tugging sharp
Hair-popping sharp
scary sharp
full body shiver sharp

anybody suggest any others? or did I get these out of order? and how do you tell 'scary' from 'full body shiver'?

Just trying to be consistent about these things,
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Thanks for good report, Yvsa. Ghost, as I recall, feels this is the most weapon oriented khukuri of his collection. Correct me if wrong, ghost. I tend to agree with ghost to a fair degree. I think Yvsa noticed the difference between the AK, a workhorse, and the 18th Cent., geared a bit more toward weapon according to my personal "feel".

Sonam, I was successful in getting the kamis to abandon the carved wood scabbard and going to a standard carry scabbard. That old scabbard was sash oriented if you wanted to carry the knife and nobody wears sashes anymore. They gave me that but not the hatchmarks. According to the reactions in the forum and via email I am glad they did not listen to me about abandoning the hatchmarks.

Yvsa, there are some of us who have worked close to hot steel and I would definitely not want the job of putting those hatchmarks on that blade. And talk about labor intensive!

We have two or three available from next shipment. Email or call if anybody is interested.

Jeff, I forgot: Chopping sharp. That's how I describe the way I generally keep my khukuris. I can't shave with them (and don't care to!) but I can chop up a goat or chicken easily enough or go chop up a little wood for a fire.

I think you are becoming a candidate for the position of resident HI linguistics expert, Jeff.

Uncle Bill

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LOLOL.
Jeff,too me,"scary sharp" is when you are afraid to touch the edge,but you run your finger gently and lightly down the blade,after the initial feel of course.
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"Full body shiver sharp" is when you do the same and know if you don't do it just right that it is going to cut you,and badly,hence the "Full body shiver." You should have stopped feeling the edge before it gets to this point,the cut.
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It is almost like that shampoo advertisement with Dr. Ruth.
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Very organic!!!!

Perhaps we should list and "organismize" these terms??
Or am I the only one that feels that touch with an incredibly sharp
edge?
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Now don't you guys go actin all dumb 'n everything about all this on me.
I "know" how y'all are. (vbeg)
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Unce Bill I do agree that this model is very"weapon" feeling. It is similiar to the Hanuman with the
WW II blade. That little village Sirupati also has the same feel.I was thinking about that exotic dance when I first pulled this one from the scabbard,but it is somehow a different kind of exotic.
There is a definite difference in being a workhorse and a weapon,but I think this model could also be a real workhorse.
I will let everyone know in a few days.
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You're right about the labor intensity too and the "hot steel."
The evenness of the spacing of the marks are incredible.

The depth is too,and for anyone that has set up a knurling tool to do the job right,that is the really critical part of making it "look" right.
If the depth is off the whole part looks crappy!!
This looks wonderful !!!


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>>>>---¥vsa---->®
The civilized man sleeps behind locked doors in the city while the naked savage sleeps (with a knife) in a open hut in the jungle.




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My 18th century is I think the best weapon in my H.I. collection. It's the style of the khukuri and feel that makes it easy to control and very effective. I was going to try to get one without hatchmarks ( I really prefer the hatchmarks) but don't think it's possible to get one without them. Figured maybe one with hatchmarks and one without.
 
By the way, there is a very good pix of the 18c in the Sept.98 issue of S.W.A.T magazine. Leroy Thompson did a review of the H.I. khuk's and it is a must have magazine for H.I. owners. Also, Tactical Knives (May 98) has a great article on these khukuri's. Leroy also wrote a great book on the SAS which is availible. Has some info about W.E.Fairbairn, who helped design the the F.S knife, and the Smatchet I think. But his book "Get Tough" shows how to fight with these blades.
 
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Jay wrote:
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By the way, there is a very good pix of the 18c in the Sept.98 issue of S.W.A.T magazine. Leroy Thompson did a review of the H.I. khuk's and it is a must have magazine for H.I. owners. Also, Tactical Knives (May 98) has a great article on these khukuri's. Leroy also wrote a great book on the SAS which is availible. Has some info about W.E.Fairbairn, who helped design the the F.S knife, and the Smatchet I think. But his book "Get Tough" shows how to fight with these blades.
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Thanks Jay.
I wonder about getting back issues?
I will have to see what I can find online about that.I would really like to have those.

I have a couple of "old" magazines that have articles of interest. One has to do with the very old Indin bows and how they compared to the European bows. It was a very favorable report.It seems our regular and laminated bows were every bit as strong and accurate as the bows of the other lands.

The other has to do with the old composite bows of the Asiatic countries.
They are kind of like the Kuhkuri's in the amount of sophistication it takes/took to manufacture them.
I wouldn't have thought that anyone had the means to carve wood,bone and horn to the precision that is/was required to put them together,let alone glues strong and flexible enough to withstand that kind of torque and compression.

Do you mean fighting with the Kuhkuri?
That would be interesting. I have been mulling it over in my head to talk with Uncle about a Bando group near me. Most M/A's have some kind of training for the older and weaker members of the race. That kind of training may be better to get me off my duff and out more than the water therapy.It is just too day-umed Hot here to do anything now.It was 90* last night at 10:00 p.m. with 50 % humidity. The heat index was 119* at Jenks OK yesterday.With that kind of humidity it is very hard to find a cool place even in the shade.



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>>>>---¥vsa---->®
The civilized man sleeps behind locked doors in the city while the naked savage sleeps (with a knife) in a open hut in the jungle.
 
Yvsa, I can email you a copy of the articles if you can't find the back issues. Let me know.

Uncle Bill
 
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