The 4" Turtle Law and Sheeple (yup, it's a rant)

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Before you ask what the fork does this have to do with Bali-Songs, well, read on.
For those of you who do not know it is illegal to sell any turtle under 4" in the USA (or at least in OH) I'm not sure if this applies to tortoises. Why? Because during the 70's petstores provided baby turtles to the US public for very small amounts of money (comparable to a hamster or gerbil).

So the US public caught onto this fad and went crazy. And low and behold, the Sheeple, being completely irresponsible, allowed young children to play with these turtles (probably unsupervised). The result is that many children and probably adults too contracted Salmonella from turtles, which are carriers of that bug. Now, instead of trying to regulate themselves and practicing careful personal hygine after handling the animals, the sheeple turned to the law to ban turtles under 4". Why? because Sheeple don't want to take responsibility for the ownership of a potentially damaging objects. Nor do they want to allow morons to suffer ill-effects of their actions (this is counter-evolutionary, if you ask me) (it's amazing lawnmowers are still legal). I think it's because they were so inexpensive and accessible that even the stupidest of Sheeple were able to buy them. This is also why we have laws against things like, say.... Gambling or Bali-Songs. You get my point.
So, don't expect Bali-Songs to be legal anytime soon. With cheap and dangerous Balis available, some moron is going to let a youngster play with one, and then his (or her) parents will call their State Rep. and complain, and the cycle of the 4" turtle will begin anew.

I read a newspaper article last year about how an illegal casino was shut down. The wife of some idiot Sheep-person called the police. why? Not because she actually cared if he was gambling or not, but because he would come home night after night without any money.
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Aaaah yes...
A very tiny percent of actual crimes are comitted with assault weapons, most of them are done with small firearms, what do they ban? The big nasty assault weapons.

The govornment is constantly on a holy crusade against the evils of casino gambling, yet they con millions of dollars out of the lower class throught the lottery.

People sue the cigarrette companies because they got cancer, as if they didnt know inhaleing the hot fumes from burning leaves was bad for them in some way.

An old lady carries a cup of coffe between her legs while driving and burns herself, whose fault is it? The guys who made the coffe of course.

This is true here, I read a warning label on my sisters curling iron, DO NOT INSERT INTO ANY BODILY ORIFICE! The sad thing is, you know somebody did it, or else they wouldent be warning you.

I read this on a preparation-H tube...
NOT TO BE TAKEN ORALLY. I can see it now,,
Dear Preparation-H,
I have used your product for a week now,
but my hemmeroids are as bad as ever, but my mouth has shrunk to such an extent that i cant eat a jelly bean.
Sincearly
Some Dumb Ass

I say we should put signs on Stupid people so that we know who were dealing with.

Do not expose this glue to fire or flame...
Well damn, i was hoping on having a nice warm bottle of glue to work with.

Surgens General Warning:
The improper use of this knife my cause cuts, gashes, bleeding, and even death. Do not run while carrying this knife. Do not insert this knife into any bodily orifice. Not to be taken orally or used by pregnant women under the age of twelve.

I mean COME ON! Let the stupid people take care of themselves.

CAUTION: This lighter emits flames that may burn or scorch.

Point gun away from yourself and others before firing.

Do not store your bullets in the microwave or oven.

Be vary careful NOT to stab yourself with this writing utensil.

Do not immerse this toaster in water.


Ok im allmost done...

We need to stop this idiosy before everything is banned or labeled.

WHEW

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now I am so sad cause I won't be able to get my HK PSG-1 sniper rifle legally (or easily for that matter). Sigh.. oh well the wonders of the internet
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no I wont point that into any bodily orifice thank you very much.

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There is a huge difference between gambling and balisongs. A balisong is something of value. It's a tool. If nothing else, you can open your mail with it. But gambling is, I'm told, a form of entertainment. Oh, very entertaining. The other day as I was waiting to pay for my gas, the fellow in line in front of me presented the clerk with a big stack of lottery tickets and asked the clerk to check and see if there were any winners. In Oregon, the tickets are bar-coded and so all the clerk has to do is run them under a scanner. The guy had sixteen tickets... all loosers. My, my... that was entertaining... wasn't it? Unfortunately for him, it was I how was entertained. He didn't look overly entertained.

In the past, the government has taxed intelligence. Income tax is really a tax on intelligence. If you're smart enough to have a good job, then you pay more tax. Sales tax is a tax on intelligence. If you're smart enough to have a good job that allows you to afford to buy things, then you pay more tax. Ditto property taxes. Capital gains tax is certainly a tax on intelligence. If you're smart enough to make good investments, then you pay more tax. And if your investments were so smart that that they paid off quickly, then you pay even more tax.

But the lottery, this is is a new form of tax. This is a tax on stupidity. The Oregon lottery boasts of being one of the most generous in the nation. They payback 54%. That's right, for every dollar you give them, you can expect them, on average, to give you 54 cents back! Tell you what folks, I'll give you the same deal except I'll give you 56 cents back! Any takers? It's a tax on stupidity.

For some strange reason, though, this gambling stuff is a genuine addiction for some people.

Am I a balisong addict? No. If the going gets tough, I'm gonna make sure I'm fed and sheltered before I buy another balisong. But there are people who will gamble before they're fed and sheltered. There are to many stories of people loosing everything they own gambling. People who cash out their retirement accounts to gamble. That's what that poor woman was worried about.

When you get your new BM42, notice the warning label on the box.

The real problem is that courts are out of control. The classic case of the lady suing McDonalds because the coffee was to hot is only one example. Our society is rapidly loosing any concept of personal responsibility. Nobody is responsible for anything they do if the outcome is undesirable. Any problem must be somebody else's fault.



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Chuck
Balisongs -- because it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing!
http://www.balisongcollector.com
 
One point on taxation. I know plenty of rich people who are absolute idiots, and they pay just as much as the rich smart ones I know. Either way, I'm just a moderatly intelligent kid from a working class family, and guess what, we pay, too. On the plus side, I stll manage to go to school, eat, and get a bali or two. Its all about working for what you want, and being brite enough to keep it. I like turtles, too.
 
I thought they got rid of the turtles because they all died in a day or so and would clog up the plumbing! I also liked the turtles.
 
Originally posted by sniperboy:
now I am so sad cause I won't be able to get my HK PSG-1 sniper rifle legally (or easily for that matter). Sigh.. oh well the wonders of the internet
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no I wont point that into any bodily orifice thank you very much.


You have that much money to spend?
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WIth a high performance tolol like that I think I can com eup with odd jobs to make up or it
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Ive had a turtle for the last 10 years. Shes a red eared slider named Cooter. Cant remember exactly what the law was back than but me and my dad just whent to the pet store and baught one. I allways washed my hands after playing with her or cleaning her tank, ive only gotten salmonella once, and that was from a nasty burger
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Knife thrower,
okay this is off topic, but to answer your question: NO!!! unfortunetly what you said is not true, sheeple don't have enough intellegence to do their homework; that is finding out about proper care of *most* reptiles and take of them properly; so they die. I know, I used to work in a pet store. Sheeple purchase many items without worrying about the ramifications of their purchases. And when things get ugly, they scream "hidden liability" and they sue and win, and then laws get pass because of this.
BTW about 50% of all reptiles show a positive for a salmonella culture.
 
On the OT subject of illegal pets, I have three ferrets. Until a few years ago they were illegal here in MA. Still illegal in CA and NY. People seem to think they eat babies or something silly like that. They're just cute and fuzzy. They will steal your shiny things (knives, lighters) though.
 
Actually, I think the problem is that they will get loose (or the sheeple will irresponsibly set them "free") and they will breed and become a nuicence. Don't forget they are very similar to weasels, and farmers hate weasels..... About 1/2 of all pet restriction laws make sense. The other 1/2 are caused by stupidity. However, I think that law in your area might be stupid, because of the cold climate, and the ferrets are usually not able to survive such extreme temps......
 

See the TURTLE of enormous girth!
On his shell he holds the earth
If you want to run and play
Go out and buy a Bali today!


Sorry, it just seemed appropriate.


- D
 
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