The Boron Carbide Sebenza

Bronco, you magnificent, warrenty voiding Bastard! Did the coating effect the lock-up at all? I know it is thin, but how is the contact between the two coated surfaces of the lock-bar and tang? or did you mask those parts, you clever SOB!

I'm dying to hear more, I've heard nothing but good things about the coating from people I trust. Is it really what we have all been looking for!?!
 
James,
Obviously there's only so much I can tell you performance-wise as I've only had the folder back in hand for 6 hours, but I'll be happy to try and address as many of your questions as possible. As far as the lock up is concerned, it will be interesting to see what develops. Most importantly, let me say that the frame lock and blade tang engage in exactly the same spot as before. I do, however, feel a tiny bit more stickiness, if you will, when disengaging the lock. Mind you, I haven't had a chance to re-oil the blade yet (I just reassembled it dry at work), so it's possible that some of this effect will be mitigated once a conservative amount of Miltec is applied, but for now I might actually be so bold as to suggest that blade lock-up security might be slightly enhanced in some way. Only time will tell for sure, and I'll be happy to report back once some time has passed.

For the record, no part of the blade, handles or clip was masked in any way. There was some concern initially that oils or other foreign substances possibly trapped between the thumbstud and the hole in the blade which accepts the thumbstud might adversely affect the coating once the vacuum was applied, but a good degreasing was accomplished beforehand, and fortunately no problems were encountered whatsoever. The interesting side effect to this is that the complete edge of the blade now has a new boron carbide coating as well. It will be fun to see how this 90Hrc surface will contribute to the life of the current edge.

The reported lubricity of boron carbide is another potential benefit which I'll be interested in evaluating once I've been able to re-oil the folder. It's possible this process could make the blade action even smoother if that's possible.

This may well be what we've been looking for, James, but I reserve the right to make a definitive declaration until we've learned more about the work Darrell's folks are doing combining this coating with an equally thin ceramic based coating. ;) :)
 
Bill, thanks for the info, I'm looking forward to hearing how it performs for you. Keep us posted!
 
Bill

Will this coating cover scratchs on the ti slabs ? does any prep work need to be done before the process. And how about the warrenty will this process void it ?
 
Well done!
Please excuse my ignorance, but if I may ask, how much does this transformation cost? And, how long was it away?

Thanks,
John
 
Bronco!
Thanks for the info! Aescetically speaking, how do you suppose that finish on the slabs with a contrasting high polished blade look? Is there any evidence that the handles have a grippier feel to the knife now?

I am also curious the cost.

Thanks again!

Barry H
 
Bronco,

Very neat! Thanks for the post, and link to the pic!

Something Darrell said sounds very interesting:

The only clear coating would be a Titanium or Zirconium Oxide and I haven't tried to coat over a Anodized titanium handle.If someone can supply me a colored scrap sample of anodized titanium I can deposit a clear oxide film to determine the wear.

Anybody got something he can use to experiment on?

Here's their URL: http://www.bodycote-na.com/

Frank
 
Bronco

I'm glad to hear your happy with your knife, it looks great from
the picture you posted. As your Sebenza was the first to be coated
I'll wait for your report before coating others.I talked with Chris
Reeves at the New York Custom Knife Show this weekend about
the coated Sebenza project and he's anxious too hear about the results.

Also last week we coated a titanium scale that had been Anodized
prior to the boron carbide.

Darrell Lewis
 
The boron coated Sebenza sounds great. Now, what I want to see is a boron coated Reeve fixed blade. I heard a rumor that the Reeve people were thinking about doing the fixed blades in CPM3V. Now, that would be great! A Project II with a boron coated 3V blade!
 
hate to be a pest, however i think a few other people are still awaiting your answer. HOW MUCH 8-P
 
Please give us at least a 'ballpark' price ........:confused:

Or at least respond with, "screw you, we know but we ain't telling !" ;)
Thanks,
 
I would like to wait until we hear the results of Bronco's knife
before I agree to coat other Sebenza's but the cost will be less
then $20.00 for two Scales Blade and Clip.This will include
Blastings the scales and coating the four parts.

Two test have been completed on coating Anodized Titanium the first
being Bronco thumb stud that had been anodized and the second
a pair of scales that. Both coated well but we would
like to do further testing.

Darrell Lewis
 
Darrell

thank you for the update on the pricing. i can appreciate your concerns on getting more info.


God bless

Fred )-+
 
Darrell,
Thank you very much for the reply. :) I completely understand you wanting to get all the testing done first.

Please forgive me if I seemed impatient. :eek: I just like this coating so much I 'can't wait'. But I realize I'll have too. :(

The price seems more than fair, and I for one will be waiting..... patiently....... ??? ;)

Please, if you can find time; keep us updated. Or 'make' Bronco do it.. :D

Thanks again and have a good one,
 
Originally posted by Bronco
The interesting side effect to this is that the complete edge of the blade now has a new boron carbide coating as well. It will be fun to see how this 90Hrc surface will contribute to the life of the current edge.
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I'm particularly interested in the edge, and how the coating will affect wear, but also sharpening, especially in the case of larger knives whose edges will not wear evenly.
How hard is this stuff going to be to grind off?
Does the "coating" affect sharpness because of any added material at the very edge (Bill, can you tell any difference in the sharpness after the treatment?)?
Reiterating the question about ease/difficulty of removal of the coating, should I assume that any knife sent for coating better have the best edge possible, because I'll be stuck with it for awhile?
Got a couple of blades I'd like to try this on very soon.
Thanks,
Owen
 
What..... I asked before you young man........ Remember age before youth, is that how it goes?????? :confused:

How's it goin Owen ?? Maybe we can get a group shipping rate. :D


Roll Tide .... :barf: :rolleyes: ;) Sorry, I could not resist.
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On a more serious note:::

This does look good. I'm going to give it a try on my user sebbie when Darrell is ready. You also brought up some very good questions about the affect on the edge. I bet the answer will be positive. I do hope they keep us updated, this is interesting. It is also my favorite coating hands down......:)

I picked up a small classic. Truly good things come to those who wait and don't get in a hurry.:) Thanks Scott. ;)
 
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