"The Bringer" & C-Tek Handle Material

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I was speaking with Eric Ochs (Great knife maker) the other day and he was talking about a fairly new material called C-Tek and C-Tek Matrix. I had not heard of it before but it sounded very interesting. Within a few days I had a customer ask for it on their knife. It is funny how the brain works, you learn a new word and then you hear it all the time.

From Composite Craft Inc's Website:
"C-Tek Resin infused honeycomb handle material. This is a material that has been “in the works” since 1995. We recently had a resin formulated for this application and have now introduced it to the manufacturing community. Quoted by Terry Renner as being “The next big thing” in handle materials,the material is absolutely stunning in its appearance and its ability to reflect light and gives a whole new depth to the knife making art. This material is available in .125 and .250” cell sizes and any thickness up to .500” and beyond. Any color honeycomb and any color resins are also available. The possibilities are endless."
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After receiving the material I had a few concerns:
  1. The sheets I received were warped which makes working with it very difficult. I sent a message to the company and they said that it should not be that way. and that they would get another batch to me ASAP.
  2. As you grind the material the cell walls show up on the sides as you can see in the photo above (Small silver portion on left side) I personally don't like the look.
  3. I was also concerned about the small pieces of resin along the edges breaking out of the open cells if dropped.

I heard back from the maker of C-Tek and he told me that there must have been a problem with the Resin Cure and he will be sending me another batch and to use this material freely. I found this as a great opportunity to play with the materail a little bit. I snapped a few photos of some sets I glued up...

Here you can see the warpage when I push on one side of the cut scales. I look forward to getting the new stuff.
CtekBend.jpg


Here you can see the Cell walls on the side of the material
CtekCellWalls.jpg


Two different scale sets the one on the left has "Black" Ctek on the Base portion and "Green" on the Bolster Portion. The right Scales have "Green" on the Base and "Black" on the Bolster. The only difference is a white liner on the right set. Makes a huge difference as you can see.
Ctekpair.jpg


Another thing I learned is that I need to cut my angles along the cell lines as to not break the cell wall because light is then reflected differently along the line. You can see this in the green on the left below. I ran the bolster cells across the base cell structure as you can see in the photo below also. I personally think it looks strange.
CtekGreenCompare.jpg


I Glued up the scales on a test knife, and I am very pleased with it. The only remaining concern is how well resin stays in the open cells along the edges. My concern lays in the light colored pieces in the photo below. I am afraid that if it gets bumped the resin will release from the honeycomb. I was able to knock some of the resin out on corners of a test piece. As long as the sides are rounded it holds up great.
CtekagroBolster.jpg

CtekAgroFingers.jpg

RyanWCtekAgroAngle.jpg


I received the new materials within a week of my original order, and it was all dead flat and beautiful.

The Bringer:
Steel: 3/16" Aldo W2 (W/Hamon)
OAL: 10"
Blade: 5"
Handle: Black & OD C-Tek with White G10 Spacer
Liner: White G10
Pins: 1/4" Mosaic & Alum. Tube, 1/8" Nickel
Misc: Tapered Tang, Balance point at front pin
Sheath: Black Leather (Right Hand)


RyanWBringerFinal.jpg



In summary:
C-Tek is a great material that requires a little more planning than most commonly used handle materials. You have to work with the honeycomb layout and angles that you use. I will definitely be using it more in the future. Composite Craft has great customer service and communication with it's clients.

The customer took these photos.
TheBringer.jpg
 
I think it looks absolutely fantastic. I love what you're doing with the pins - it really accents the look.
 
Thanks for the write-up, Ryan. I haven't used the material yet and I found it very interesting to learn about the variables such as light reflection, cell walls, etc. The knife looks fantastic!
 
Ah, that stuff is so cool, and the knife is sweet. I was just looking at this knife over on the JT forum and popped over here in time to find out more about the materials. Thanks for posting your how-to-work findings.
 
Lookin good Ryan. How high did you sand?

I've used it a few times and agree it is super cool stuff but does take more planning/prep.
 
Looks really cool for the right knife, but with the possible down falls I dont think I would risk it on a knife I would be willing to sell. Sounds like something that in a few years you would be getting a bunch of calls or emails about the handle not lasting up. Just a thought, I could be totally wrong.
 
Quint I will let you know in a couple of years, Either way I will repair or replace them if it is an issue. I personally don't think it will be.
 
Probably wont be and sounds like a good stand by your work philosophy which is the way to go. Still I will keep an eye out for how well they work for ya.
 
Thanks for the write up... I've been wanting to use this stuff since I saw it on knifekits... I was actually going to post asking if anyone has worked with it. Alas since I'm still new at this I think I'll wait a bit before trying.

Thanks again.
 
Awesome knife! I've seen the red Ctek and it looks killer. I think a red and black handle combo would be sick.
 
Red with a black liner underneath looks really sweet. The C tek colors are quite translucent.
 
Thanks for the comments everyone!

Lookin good Ryan. How high did you sand?

I've used it a few times and agree it is super cool stuff but does take more planning/prep.

Thanks OTK, It sanded really nice I took this handle up to 600 grit nice and smooth but still secure

Nice stuff, Ryan. Thanks for the even handed write up.
Try to say it like it is. Only time will tell for sure how it holds up, but I like it so far

Awesome knife! I've seen the red Ctek and it looks killer. I think a red and black handle combo would be sick.
Thanks, I have a customer asking for Red. I need to decide the best liner. Black liners remove all colors (Looks Black) except where the cell wall has been removed on the edges.
 
That is a good looking knife. The C-Tek Matrix is some crazy looking stuff. Looks kinda like someone poured molten aluminum into liquid and flash froze the whole thing before the metal could sink
 
How does this compare to the other handle materials ?...like G-10,micarta,natural wood
Other composites !.. Are there any test threads,
Videos,other reviews ? ...
Ryan do you having any plans on making a test
Blade with this to check impact resistance,bending
Flexing,and all around hard use ?

Frank
 
I was speaking with Eric Ochs (Great knife maker) the other day and he was talking about a fairly new material called C-Tek and C-Tek Matrix. I had not heard of it before but it sounded very interesting. Within a few days I had a customer ask for it on their knife. It is funny how the brain works, you learn a new word and then you hear it all the time.

From Composite Craft Inc's Website:
"C-Tek Resin infused honeycomb handle material. This is a material that has been “in the works” since 1995. We recently had a resin formulated for this application and have now introduced it to the manufacturing community. Quoted by Terry Renner as being “The next big thing” in handle materials,the material is absolutely stunning in its appearance and its ability to reflect light and gives a whole new depth to the knife making art. This material is available in .125 and .250” cell sizes and any thickness up to .500” and beyond. Any color honeycomb and any color resins are also available. The possibilities are endless."
stacks_image_223_1.png


After receiving the material I had a few concerns:
  1. The sheets I received were warped which makes working with it very difficult. I sent a message to the company and they said that it should not be that way. and that they would get another batch to me ASAP.
  2. As you grind the material the cell walls show up on the sides as you can see in the photo above (Small silver portion on left side) I personally don't like the look.
  3. I was also concerned about the small pieces of resin along the edges breaking out of the open cells if dropped.

I heard back from the maker of C-Tek and he told me that there must have been a problem with the Resin Cure and he will be sending me another batch and to use this material freely. I found this as a great opportunity to play with the materail a little bit. I snapped a few photos of some sets I glued up...

Here you can see the warpage when I push on one side of the cut scales. I look forward to getting the new stuff.
CtekBend.jpg


Here you can see the Cell walls on the side of the material
CtekCellWalls.jpg


Two different scale sets the one on the left has "Black" Ctek on the Base portion and "Green" on the Bolster Portion. The right Scales have "Green" on the Base and "Black" on the Bolster. The only difference is a white liner on the right set. Makes a huge difference as you can see.
Ctekpair.jpg


Another thing I learned is that I need to cut my angles along the cell lines as to not break the cell wall because light is then reflected differently along the line. You can see this in the green on the left below. I ran the bolster cells across the base cell structure as you can see in the photo below also. I personally think it looks strange.
CtekGreenCompare.jpg


I Glued up the scales on a test knife, and I am very pleased with it. The only remaining concern is how well resin stays in the open cells along the edges. My concern lays in the light colored pieces in the photo below. I am afraid that if it gets bumped the resin will release from the honeycomb. I was able to knock some of the resin out on corners of a test piece. As long as the sides are rounded it holds up great.
CtekagroBolster.jpg

CtekAgroFingers.jpg

RyanWCtekAgroAngle.jpg


I received the new materials within a week of my original order, and it was all dead flat and beautiful.

The Bringer:
Steel: 3/16" Aldo W2 (W/Hamon)
OAL: 10"
Blade: 5"
Handle: Black & OD C-Tek with White G10 Spacer
Liner: White G10
Pins: 1/4" Mosaic & Alum. Tube, 1/8" Nickel
Misc: Tapered Tang, Balance point at front pin
Sheath: Black Leather (Right Hand)


RyanWBringerFinal.jpg



In summary:
C-Tek is a great material that requires a little more planning than most commonly used handle materials. You have to work with the honeycomb layout and angles that you use. I will definitely be using it more in the future. Composite Craft has great customer service and communication with it's clients.

The customer took these photos.
TheBringer.jpg

That's simply awesome, Ryan.
 
Hi Ryan, I'm a total newbie, and I just started on my first knife ever. I've tried really hard to read through forums and online pages to get as much info as I can, so that I don't bother people with dumb questions, but I can't seem find any info on two questions I have, and you seemed to have done both of them on this knife.
If you have a sec, could you please do me a favor and help me? Right now I have an 11" piece of CPM-154 which is what I'll be using for my knife. How do you get that wavy line in the blade? Does it have to be certain type of metal or is there some process to doing this on any metal? I just can't find any info on it. Second question is when you put these scales on your knife, you used Mosaic pins, but I'm under the understanding that you can't hammer these, and they're basically just for aesthetic. When using mosaic pins like the one in this knife, do you use some other method of fastening the scales to the tang or do you just glue in these pins or what?
I'd greatly appreciate any info you could give on this for me. Thanks. Brad.
 
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