...So why bother comparing them at all?...
Since I'm not the one who initiated comparisons, I agree.
"No one's claimed Sanrenmu uses 154CM,"
Right. Why would you think someone had? I'm merely pointing out that Benchmade offers a better value comparison than at first appears.
You, yourself, just used the word "comparison". As soon as you "compare" any aspect, you've opened that door. In that regard, *you* initiated comparison/s. In other words, why even bring up 154CM? Steels were not inquired about as part of OP's question/request.
...notes a comparison between what Benchmade is using and what the other company isn't.
Then, you're not talking about "comparisons", right? Rather, you're referring to how they "contrast" (differ)?
No. None of the big three have done that. How could you possibly think that?
I did not specifically use the term "big three". What makes you think I did? Can you quote me? See, I can play this game, too.
...you actually failed to have any real counterargument
There are no arguments here, whatsoever, as far as I'm concerned. I just don't see the purpose of trying to turn another one of these threads into a political/economics discussion. Look, it's pretty simple. The OP asked a very basic question about finding the cheapest axis lock knife, with no interest about the price of tea in China, so to speak.
For the record, I'm claiming that China's worker's rights are far inferior to the US' (and many other nations), and as a consequence, the average quality of production is lower.
Also, Originally Posted by Artfully Martial:
Do I know, for a fact, that a Chinese manufacturer is producing knives of lower quality? No, I can't say that I do--...
Says it all for me.
Your claim is, I must assume, since you didn't state one, that Chinese working conditions is at least comparable or reasonably close to the US', and/or that their production quality is similar. Please make your claim explicitly, then cite your evidence in support of it.
You assume incorrectly. I'm not addressing working conditions because that's not the topic here. And, for me, you saying, "...on average, the quality of work performed by a nation with worker's rights as opposed to quasi-slave labor
produces a better product. ...", is also not relevant nor completely accurate, especially when talking about products that are in much different price brackets.
While I recognize that you're factually correct, I believe that implicit in his request is at least some consideration of value.
Perhaps. For me, when folks use the word "cheapest", they're referring to lowest price, with "lowest price" being the primary focus. Regardless, I believe that in this case, "cheapest" can be realized, *along with value*, which is why I suggested a Sanrenmu.
But I could be wrong on this.
Agreed.
If the OP comes out and says "I don't care at all about the quality for the money. I just want the cheapest knife with those specs possible" then I will have been wrong.
I really don't see the need to read into the OP's request. The title seems pretty simple & clear, "Recommendation? The cheapest Axis-Style lock knives?".
I literally said that. Which is true. That is common sense. What's your point?
That's not common sense. It may be your viewpoint, but that doesn't make it common sense.
Why would I do that? Two of them are on here frequently. Most of the long-term members here have had multiple conversations with Sal Glesser and Thomas W. So why not just say hi to them yourself?
Um, joking.
