The Condor has landed.

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I finally received the Kephart knife in the mail today. It's been tough to track one down and I ordered and received a Mora light my fire during the search and wait. So I have a ready made comparison for you guys and gals. I'll start with the Mora. It's my first Mora and I was surprised by the lightweight and sharpness of the blade. Making feather sticks are a breeze with the scandi grind and sharpening is very easy. The top of the blade has a nice flat surface to utilize the light my fire rod once I scraped through the coating. I made a few fires with it. The sheath is positive and the belt hook works good. It's no beauty queen, but I really like the knife. I was excited to see a package in the mail box today! Inside was the Condor Kephart knife. I did a lot of reading before I made the order and just about everything I read was true. Great sheath! Thick leather, nice stitching and the knife stays put in it. Just like I read the blade didnt feel very sharp out of the box because of the epoxy coating. Many suggested removing the coating, not sure if its epoxy, but they said it was tough to get off. I used some brake cleaner and the job took about five minutes. Once the blade was clean I was able to see that there was an edge on the blade. Not the sharpest edge, it didnt pass the typing paper test, still I've seen worse. I noticed right off the bat it has small little bump running the length of the blade just inside edge. I guess this is a hollow grind blade kind of like a buck knife. I attempted to whittle a feather stick and didnt have much success. It made curly chips something like a blockplane would make. I thought I might sharpen it just a little to see if I could get it to whittle like the Mora. Nope! The 1075 steel is some tough stuff! I tried to sharpen it on my wet stone, trying to match the factory grind. It was very slow going. I had to run to town so I stopped by the town sharpening guy. I brought the Mora with me and I asked him if it would be wise to have him put a scandi grind on the kephart. He said to give it a try as is. His reasoning was the the hollow grind added strength to the edge. I asked him to touch up the blade for me. He has one of those wet stone tools that has three different stones that ride on a spindle with a hand crank. He rotated the stones in the slurry trough and started with the fine stone. Then he used the medium stone then the coarse. WOW! He said this steel is hard! He spun around to his belt grinder and made a pass on each side, still amazed at the hardness. One more pass on each side with the belt grinder and he turned back to the rotating wet stones. He started coarse, medium then to fine. He said here you go and handed me the knife. Man he got that thing sharp! I asked him how much for the job and he said no charge! Sweet! So I get back home and start making a feather stick. Still blockplane chips, nothing like the long thin feathers that the Mora produced. Ok, so I went out back to see how the light my fire stick would work. Small sparks, again nothing like the Mora. I guess I'll have to flatten the back of the blade. So in comparison the Mora was ready to go and the Condor still needs some work. What do you guys and gals think of having scandi grind put on the Kephart? :confused:
 
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It's flat ground with a convex edge. I thinned mine behind the edge some on a diamond stone and that did the trick for me. Mine now makes good feathers, and it's still far tougher than any mora I've ever played with.
 
OP, check out this pic to see the difference between some knife grinds.
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Your mora is a taper grind, it looks curved in the pic but it's just a flat v, also called a scandi grind.
The bump you feel is just the transition between the flat grind and where it begins to convex, most likely.
This is actually one of my favourite edges, convex edges are tough, sharpen easily, (once you learn the tricks) and slice really well.
 
I don't have a diamond stone yet, can you make a recommendation on a good one? How long did it take to flatten the convex? The grey wet stone I have took a long time to even start sharpening the factory edge... I'd like to reshape it to a scandi, it's easier to sharpen for a rookie like me...
 
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I have a Smith's coarse benchstone that I use for serious metal removal, then I usually move to a Fallkniven dc3 or dc4, diamond side first, then ceramic to polish it up.
 
In my limited knowledge base I'd call it a modified convex. The blade starts out as a flat grind but has mini convex right at the edge bevel. It blade grind starts a steep taper to a slightly larger bolster of metal right before the edge bevel. Hope that makes sense.
 
Gah. So much confusion here. Allow me to correct it. :)

The Condor Kephart has a full flat grind with a convex edge. The factory edge angle has been a little obtuse on some runs but it will slice like the dickens once you thin it out.

Condor IS doing hollow grinds now, but the only model featuring them is the Dundee Bowie, which has a hollow saber grind. Very well executed and crisp, I might add.
 
I don't see why a scandi won't be perfectly fine on a Condor Kephart. I have one whose edge was just a bit too obtuse for my liking, so I got out the stones and went to town...

...but it was a slow trip. I don't think the blade is particularly hard, but it did take longer than I thought.

And not being able to leave well enough alone, I then tried to round off the end of the scales/tang somewhat and miscalculated; I'm currently about halfway finished with my first set of DIY micarta scales.
 
Bah,
Give me a Mora any day, over anything Condor makes as far as knives go. I like "working" on their choppers...and I say "work" since every one I have purchased needed major open heart surgery to even cut anything other than the air...
That being said, they are tough cheap machete's...and if that's OK with you, then you will like them..I do.
I still want one of there bushcrafty knives to sharpen up and throw in the van as a user...someday I will trade into one.
Mora's might cost less, but the QC is light years ahead of Condor.
 
I don't see why a scandi won't be perfectly fine on a Condor Kephart. I have one whose edge was just a bit too obtuse for my liking, so I got out the stones and went to town...

...but it was a slow trip. I don't think the blade is particularly hard, but it did take longer than I thought.

And not being able to leave well enough alone, I then tried to round off the end of the scales/tang somewhat and miscalculated; I'm currently about halfway finished with my first set of DIY micarta scales.

It's not really possible to convert a full flat grind to a scandi... >_>;;

Bah,
Give me a Mora any day, over anything Condor makes as far as knives go. I like "working" on their choppers...and I say "work" since every one I have purchased needed major open heart surgery to even cut anything other than the air...
That being said, they are tough cheap machete's...and if that's OK with you, then you will like them..I do.
I still want one of there bushcrafty knives to sharpen up and throw in the van as a user...someday I will trade into one.
Mora's might cost less, but the QC is light years ahead of Condor.

Dude--I know this'll sound like shameless self-promotion but if anything Condor catches your eye let me know. I inspect all of the items that pass through my hands for QC and I can do the edge work for ya'.
 
I recently got a condor golok in a trade and was pleasantly surprised, though I don't think the style of blade is really for me.
Looking forward to trying some other stuff out soon, actually the kephart is near the top of the list.
 
I don't often buy knives for myself these days (mostly been buying vintage scythes and agricultural hand tools) but I snagged a Kephart for myself, for what it's worth. Great li'l knife although the Rodan is still my favorite. The Kephart makes a great chore knife around the homestead.
 
Thanks for the replies! I'm going to use the factory edge for a while, guess I should give it a chance to see how it holds up.
Marty B.
 
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