The cost of healthcare in this country is our single largest problem

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The paper dollar(federal reserve debt note) is the biggest problem in the United States, because it's borrowed into existence, at an interest rate, not earned into existence. That's the cause of inflation of everything.
Everything is getting less expensive in bitcoin.
Bitcoin is earned through math equations and energy. In 2019 a bitcoin was $7000. So it costed about 100 bitcoin for a $700,000 house. Today it's around 7 bitcoin for a $700,000 house.
That's the difference between money that is earned into existence, and money that is borrowed into existence.
It takes 100 of the best computers in the world working together, 41 days to mine one bitcoin($110,000).
It takes one rig, one day, in the bearing sea with four people on it and no computers, to mine $125,000 worth of gold.
And it takes the government a nanosecond to print $1 trillion on the computer.
Every bitcoin takes longer to mine than the previous one, the very last bitcoin will take 100 years to mine...from year 2040 to 2140
 
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(1) Obamacare was created and
passed entirely by DEMOCRATS.
(2) Since Obamacare took effect, health insurance premiums have
SKYROCKETED.
(3) The Obamacare COVID-era subsidies were also passed entirely by DEMOCRATS, and set
to expire at the end of this year. DEMOCRATS have increased health care costs exponentially, and are now shutting down the government—as they try to cover up THEIR OWN FAILURES and
somehow blame Republicans.
 
Today the Mona Lisa is worth about $850 million. But if Leonardo da Vinci was still alive, and
went in the other room and painted 38 trillion more of them. They would all be worthless.
That's what happens when the government prints dollars.
The United States has $38 trillion worth of debt. No country ever in the history of the world has ever been that far in debt.
The only reason why the dollar even buys anything is because of force. The strength of the United States military. Because any country that tries to go around the dollar will end up in a war with the United States.
None of the other countries in the world want dollars. But they are forced to use them. Otherwise they would use something else.
When gold was tied to the dollar, the dollar was strong. And gold was $35. But after they closed the gold window, gold went to $4000. Because nobody's giving up their gold for $35.
 
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To speak up for the lawyers involved in the Healthcare discussion, some are clearly frivolous and want to extract what they can while providing nothing beneficial to anyone. Others do their best to help people who have suffered grievously and have no recourse to avoid destitution. The latter now face a losing battle.

I know of several cases where physicians convinced terminal patients to undergo unnecessary, risky surgeries. The patients consent because they are scared and are desperate as they might get a chance at another 6 months. The procedure inevitably goes awry and the patient is moved to the ICU and expires within days or weeks. Insurance denies coverage, or at least full coverage, because the procedure was not necessary. The providers get to collect their fees for the procedure and intensive care afterwards while the patient suffers needlessly and their families/estates are bled dry to pay for it.

Decent lawyers won't even attempt to litigate such a case because they know it's pointless: the provider's insurance company will fight as long and hard as they can and tort reform capped the recovery amount such that any award will be eaten up by legal fees, leaving the victims no better off than before. Our state legislature has been so captured by the insurance industry that the only people who can hold bad providers to account are those with deep enough pockets to litigate out of spite or those who have been so badly injured that insurance chooses to avoid trial and settle. Everyone else in between, which is most people, are shit out of luck.

There are so many great providers who don't do this, but a system that protects the few who do is truly rotten.
 
azwelke said:
Today the Mona Lisa is worth about $850 million. But if Leonardo da Vinci was still alive, and
went in the other room and painted 38 trillion more of them. They would all be worthless.
That's what happens when the government prints dollars.
The United States has $38 trillion worth of debt. No country ever in the history of the world has ever been that far in debt.
The only reason why the dollar even buys anything is because of force. The strength of the United States military. Because any country that tries to go around the dollar will end up in a war with the United States.
None of the other countries in the world want dollars. But they are forced to use them. Otherwise they would use something else.
When gold was tied to the dollar, the dollar was strong. And gold was $35. But after they closed the gold window, gold went to $4000. Because nobody's giving up their gold for $35.
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If the United States buys 10 apples for $10 from China, when the dollars come back home, the United States only wants to give back five apples for $10. That's why they devalue the dollar.
It would not be advantageous for the United States to make the dollar stronger, and have to give up 15 apples for $10 when China brings the dollars back.
That's why the dollar will never get stronger.
It's not about the price of the goods, it's about the purchase power of the dollar.
In 1963 a gallon of gas was around one silver quarter, that's all they had in 1963, silver,
today a silver quarter will probably buy 2 gallons of gas. So gas went down against real money.
 
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azwelke said:
Today the Mona Lisa is worth about $850 million. But if Leonardo da Vinci was still alive, and
went in the other room and painted 38 trillion more of them. They would all be worthless.
That's what happens when the government prints dollars.
The United States has $38 trillion worth of debt. No country ever in the history of the world has ever been that far in debt.
The only reason why the dollar even buys anything is because of force. The strength of the United States military. Because any country that tries to go around the dollar will end up in a war with the United States.
None of the other countries in the world want dollars. But they are forced to use them. Otherwise they would use something else.
When gold was tied to the dollar, the dollar was strong. And gold was $35. But after they closed the gold window, gold went to $4000. Because nobody's giving up their gold for $35.
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That was Saddam's sin. He switched to the Euro as Iraq's reserve currency, which meant that anyone that wanted to buy oil there had to pay in Euros - not Dollars. Likewise, Gaddafi was planning a gold backed currency for Libya and a pan Africa economic union. Noe, can't have that ... And bombs away.
 
I get everything compliments of the VA. But medical care in this country is artificially inflated. Anyone paying out of pocket should not pay a summarized bill. They should denand they get a detailed ITEMIZED bill, and refuse to pay until it is rendered.

And then there is the whole picture of health in the US compared to countries like Japan and Switzerland. They live far longer than we do. There are known reasons for this and these things need to be addressed and changed. One primary driver is that the US is a dumping ground for all kinds of junk and toxic food additives, preservatives etc. The other is pesticides and herbicides. At the commercial properties I am contracted to the grounds maintenance contractors spray weed killer over every square foot like it's water. The pest control guys spray their stuff like its water as well. This has poisoned our ground water and penetrated every step of the food supply chain. It's insanity and suicidal. Years ago the environmental groups spoke out about this , now they have been coopted and gone silent.
 
There are more than one single largest problem.

I immigrated to the U.S over 35 years ago short of a month and a half, did everything properly and became a citizen just under 25 years ago. I was already married so my path to permanent residency and oath of citizenship took longer than some. I must admit that I have been quite withdrawn recently although I still vote which I take seriously. I have almost gone back to my "green card" days when I was just a guest with the privilege of residency. Times have changed and for, I keep reminding myself that if the plurality of our voters voted for this, this is what we will all get for at least the next 3+ years although the outlook beyond that is quite murky.

I have always been a proud liberal with some conservative economic tendencies which have now got full blown liberal. The Republican Party only exists in name which has become something totally different and the Democratic Party is a huge hot mess populated at the top by almost as corrupt party leaders kowtowing to big corporations. I don't know if I will live long enough to see the dazzling America of the 80s and the 90s. That era was not perfect and actually became an incubator for what we have gone through since early 2000s. I will not mention the SOBs name but what he did to us on 911 broke us and he knew it.

To come back to the topic, I staunchly believe in a single payer system but people will have to accept top down redistribution. Alas the corruption of $ in politics makes that idea a mere pipe dream at the present time. Lastly, with all due respect, a couple of posters have no idea in here when they ramble on about my beloved state of CA despite its long list of problems. I know quite a bit about economics and I do understand everything which AZWelke is talking about. I suspect that he is on the diametrical end of the political spectrum than me, but that is one guy I think that I can sit down and shoot the shyte with regarding money, debt, the $ and its exorbitant status as the world's reserve currency which this country will probably have to defend even if it means flexing its extraordinary military might and muscle.
 
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There are more than one single largest problem.

I immigrated to the U.S over 35 years ago short of a month and a half, did everything properly and became a citizen just under 25 years ago. I was already married so my path to permanent residency and oath of citizenship took longer than some. I must admit that I have been quite withdrawn recently although I still vote which I take seriously. I have almost gone back to my "green card" days when I was just a guest with the privilege of residency. Times have changed and for, I keep reminding myself that if the plurality of our voters voted for this, this is what we will all get for at least the next 3+ years although the outlook beyond that is quite murky.

I have always been a proud liberal with some conservative economic tendencies which have now got full blown liberal. The Republican Party only exists in name which has become something totally different and the Democratic Party is a huge hot mess populated at the top by almost as corrupt party leaders kowtowing to big corporations. I don't know if I will live long enough to see the dazzling America of the 80s and the 90s. That era was not perfect and actually became an incubator for what we have gone through since early 2000s. I will not mention the SOBs name but what he did to us on 911 broke us and he knew it.

To come back to the topic, I staunchly believe in a single payer system but people will have to accept top down redistribution. Alas the corruption of $ in politics makes that idea a mere pipe dream at the present time. Lastly, with all due respect, a couple of posters have no idea in here when they ramble on about my beloved state of CA despite its long list of problems. I know quite a bit about economics and I do understand everything which AZWelke is talking about. I suspect that he is on the diametrical end of the political spectrum than me, but that is one guy I think that I can sit down and shoot the shyte with regarding money, debt, the $ and its exorbitant status as the world's reserve currency which this country will probably have to defend even if it means flexing its extraordinary military might and muscle.
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I decided to edit out my comments. Being born and raised in Latin America, and spending a career in healthcare in the US,, I am pretty stuck in my views I will avoid making more posts.
 
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This issue always comes down to tort reform, illegal immigration and entitlements.

I also suspect that were we all to learn to accept death when it comes we would all live longer, happier and better lives. It’s always the selfish final fight that drains our families, wallets, and society. Then again, very few of us ever experience any kind of death first hand, which makes it easier to fantasize about living forever.

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not2sharp said:
This issue always comes down to tort reform, illegal immigration and entitlements.

I also suspect that were we all to learn to accept death when it comes we would all live longer, happier and better lives. It’s always the selfish final fight that drains our families, wallets, and society. Then again, very few of us ever experience any kind of death first hand, which makes it easier to fantasize about living forever.

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Added in bought/owned, dual citizenship legislators who give Billions of dollars each year to their country who Does have free healthcare for it's citizens.....paid for by American taxpayers.

Yup......keep voting. That will work!

Vote for this candidate They choose,
Or vote for that candidate They choose.

* If you are making laws in This country, you should ONLY be an American.....Heck, id include that to hold to spouse as well. Too many fake politicians
 
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