The crappy Chinese knife that just won't quit

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Recently bought this. It comes sharp and its been a few weeks and its holding up. Its got wood scales but comes with a lousy sheath.
 
OP....Nice looking knife. Looks like its pretty tough too. Doesn't matter if its a $400.00 knife...as long as it works is all that matters.

Is that pistol magazine from a 9mm CZ-P01? I have the same pistol and it looks like the same mags.
 
Whitebuffalo2
I love a brand of knife. I went to a chain store to buy this brand of knife because I love their knives.After going through all of this mod. I gave up.I could not find one that did not have back and forth blade play.I was so upset I contacted the maker and they were very glad to hear about my experience,and were able to locate the problem.They want their knives to be the very best.It does not mater where on the globe you are making a knife, your location does not mean a quality product.What I care about is how its made not where its made.My favorite brand did not have one out of ten that was worthy of this brands name.
 
Hi kitkat52, I know I probably come across as a Chinaphobic. I'm really not and for the most part I try to refer to these knives as global. Intentionally not singleing out any one country but rather the whole picture with import knives. I do understand that there are no guarantees that say made in America means flawless workmanship. And I also understand that just because a knife says made in China it doesn't automatically mean "Crappy". However, I do believe that the good to bad ratio leans a bit more in favor of the American made product. IMHO With all that said, my question was never, in any way, meant to belittle or degrade globally made knives. But rather address the issue of what happens if one day there is no more American made cutlery and worse yet American made firearms and ammo? I know that all sounds far fetched and paranoid but we're really not all that far from it being a reality. Let me ask this, if all here were faced with the worst case senario and had to defend their lives or that of their families or way of life. And someone laid before you, a globally built Buck knife and an American made Buck of the same model or say a globally built Remington rifle and an American made counterpart. Which would you be more likely to trust? Under those circumstances, price no longer plays the role that it does on a day to day basis. While this senario will likely never happen, the problem to me is that on that day to day basis, we continue to make our purchases based solely on price, manufacturing in the U.S. is finished. And the things that we depend on to live and defend our lives with, will effectively be outsourced to other countries and again IMHO not one of those countries has our best interest in mind. Please understand that I'm not a radical. I don't dress like Rambo to go out and face the world. I don't tote a Khukri or a Glock when I go to the store. (no offense to those who do, to each their own) I'm just a simple man living a simple life who wonders (and to some degree worrys) about the direction this country is headed when it comes to (in this case) the importing of cultlery, firearms and ammo in general. I'll leave off with this, I've read many, many stories about people who have saved their own lives or that of others by using an American made knife. (Kabars to "kill a bar" story comes to mind) However, and I may be wrong, I don't remember ever seeing a story where someone claimed to have been saved by a China made knife. Thanks to all here for listening to the ramblings of an old fart. My only intention was to place a thought, not to offend. WB2
 
whitebuffalo2 said:
However, and I may be wrong, I don't remember ever seeing a story where someone claimed to have been saved by a China made knife.
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You may not have seen one, but I am sure that such stories MUST exist! There are over 1 Billion people in China, there definitely are people whose lives have been saved by China made knives.

I buy plenty of knives made in different countries and TBH I don't see the USA made knives disappearing any time soon (nor USA made guns or ammo). My BK-7 & BK-9 knives were good value despite being made in the USA - buying on price doesn't necessarily mean not buying USA manufactured products. I buy stuff made in the USA despite living in another country, not because I want to support USA, but because they are damn good products! I love my Leatherman Wave & Squirt, my Surefire A2, my BK7 & BK-9, my ESEE Izula, etc.

Just because I buy knives made in China, France, Sweden, Nepal, Japan or Taiwan it doesn't mean that I wont buy knives made in the USA as well. I'd be willing to bet good money that in 20 years there will still be plenty of knives made in the USA!
 
whitebuffalo2
You seem like a person that I would love to spend time with listening to your point of view.I love American made knives too.For years the only knives I had that were not made here were from Germany made by Boker.I still think they make some of the finest knives in the world.The world has really changed in the last twenty years.Now we are very linked to places that we use to only wonder about like China.Many US companies have branches there making the goods we buy like knives.I can respect anyone who speaks from experience about knives from China,but to say they are all bad because they are not made here is just foolish.I know you are not saying that.
Now if you go back in US history you will find armaments guns and knives that were bought and used by our government during times of war.England and France have both sold weapons to the USA.
 
After reading this whole thread, I really only have one thought. It's the same thought that a few others have had... Why does the knife look so pristine after being used for so many different tasks? Some of these tasks would be considered hard use, but the coating stays on the blade? I've owned and used S&W knives before and the coating never lasted more than a few days. Even just cutting boxes made the paint chip. There's something not quite right about the comparison between use and the image.
 
Sure guys, all good points and well taken. I probably do to some degree over react to this issue. The thing I can relate to (and I'm not THAT old by the way) is the Mckinley act of the 1890's. Our country was so dependent on foreign supplied cutlery and firearms that it became imperative that we take measures to stop what was viewed as the rampent import of foreign products. As a result, companys like Case, Queen, Camillus, Schrade and a whole slew of others flurished. As did this country as a whole. I'm not smart enough to weigh in on the whole issue of tariffs, (and that's politics, I do not want to go down that road, please) but it seems like we are faced with much the same senario now-a-days. It all has an air about it that comes very close IMO to this countries dependancy on foreign oil. When the import of any given product is so vastly outweighed by our export and/or production of that same product, how long can those U.S. manufactures stay afloat? Right now, outsourcing seems to be the trend. To me that is the same thing as handing a foreign worker an American workers paycheck. (or atleast a portion of it) The question I keep trying to ask, and seem to keep asking wrong, is this. Good product, bad product plays no part what-so-ever. Is the degree in which we purchase globally made knives, here in America, good or bad for our country? If buying these knives is a good way to help lower the deficit, then I'm all for it. If however, it only lends itself to furthering the problem, then it seems wrong somehow. I guess I should probably point out that I am not as pure as the driven snow on this. I too own knives from other countries. Germany, England, SAK's, Spain amongst others and even a handful from China. I'm not being a hipocrit, it's just that over the past few years this question comes to mind more. My hope is that I don't P.O. a bunch of people but simply open the door to better understanding and a good open conversation on something that I think about more than I used to. It's been said that times are changing. Yes they are! I just wanna feel that I'm doing the right thing during these times. WB2
 
Gadgetaholic said:
You may not have seen one, but I am sure that such stories MUST exist! There are over 1 Billion people in China, there definitely are people whose lives have been saved by China made knives.

I buy plenty of knives made in different countries and TBH I don't see the USA made knives disappearing any time soon (nor USA made guns or ammo). My BK-7 & BK-9 knives were good value despite being made in the USA - buying on price doesn't necessarily mean not buying USA manufactured products. I buy stuff made in the USA despite living in another country, not because I want to support USA, but because they are damn good products! I love my Leatherman Wave & Squirt, my Surefire A2, my BK7 & BK-9, my ESEE Izula, etc.

Just because I buy knives made in China, France, Sweden, Nepal, Japan or Taiwan it doesn't mean that I wont buy knives made in the USA as well. I'd be willing to bet good money that in 20 years there will still be plenty of knives made in the USA!
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see on the leatherman wave i dont see the holy grail quality it is meant to have...I have chipped the tip off mine prolly 8 or 9 times! the blade is way too hard IMO for a tool you use hard daily and the steel corroded when I wore it in the everglades of florida, its a decent enough tool but it has its flaws that annoy the hell out of me! much like any product as you say, the quality can be there or not there, the country of origin has little to do with it.
 
Robert.B said:
see on the leatherman wave i dont see the holy grail quality it is meant to have...
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*shrug* Mine's fine, but I've only been EDCing it for 9 or 10 years - maybe it will show some signs of wear or corrosion soon.

Maybe the newer version isn't as good as the original?
 
Gadgetaholic said:
*shrug* Mine's fine, but I've only been EDCing it for 9 or 10 years - maybe it will show some signs of wear or corrosion soon.

Maybe the newer version isn't as good as the original?
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i got mine in 2005...so I'm pretty sure mines the older version.
 
S&W is made in china? gerber as well? I thought S&W was made in the usa and gerber in germany.


I have 3 byrd knifes and they are great! I gave one to a friend recently, a Byrd cara cara 2 and he is loving it and uses it whenever he can. It has held up to the work (and we work with horses) and it has held it's edge which he is amazed at.
 
eccvets said:
S&W is made in china? gerber as well? I thought S&W was made in the usa and gerber in germany.


I have 3 byrd knifes and they are great! I gave one to a friend recently, a Byrd cara cara 2 and he is loving it and uses it whenever he can. It has held up to the work (and we work with horses) and it has held it's edge which he is amazed at.
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Never heard of anyone thinking Gerber was German before! They're an American company that was bought out by Fiskars (of Finland) in the mid 80's. Since that time Fiskars has seem content to make Gerber an economy brand, which is just fine for the average individual.
 
FortyTwoBlades
There was a man Henry ford who had a vision of mass producing his Mod.T. car that priced right any one could buy one for $290 in the 1920s.This was produced on an assembly line.It was not a custom car.It did not cost an arm and a leg but it was a very good car.It was the first affordable car.The Ford Model T was named the world's most influential car of the twentieth century.It was a good deal.
You are right that Gerber would be regarded by some as a economy line because the most I know of one costing is the Mark II.It is around $100.Gerber is content on making quality knives that the masses will buy like the Model T Ford.I bet Gerber will be around long after many above average brands have died.The majority want a quality product that is a good deal like the Model T Ford.Knife makers should study Ford if they want to stay around for a long time.They could study Gerber also because they have been around since 1939.They have 30 million in revenue and provide 100 jobs in the USA.They build quality knives that average people who read this forum like me, buy.It looks like they are selling millions of knives.
 
Gerber's been making knives since '39? That's something I didn't realize! I have a couple of Gerbers in my collection, but never really did any research on the company. Never too old to learn, huh? Anyone have a pic of one of them older Gerbers, I'd love to see one.
 
Everyone keeps saying they don't believe it because the finish is too pristine. Well, the iPhone camera isn't exactly known to produce the picture quality of a DSLR. The coating is extremely thin on the blade now ith many very small marks all the way through.

I have a S&W fixed blade that I bought a couple months ago with the "same" coating and it rubbed off from looking at the blade wrong.
 
When I polished the back of the blade, a wire brush on my dremel did nothing except make the coating a shiny black. I had to use a metal file and grinding wheels to remove it.

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