The Demko Plate, The Tiger Claw, and Cutting Yourself

Steely_Gunz

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My first impulse buy of 2025 has been a full serrated Tiger Claw. I have a few big ol' Cold Steel folders, several practical and tactical folders, but I was missing something that I might want to carry "just in case". I have been quasi training with and carrying karambits for the better part of 20 years. As someone who uses a khukuri a lot, the way a 'bit handles came very natural to me. I tended to favor larger samples simply because that fit my familiarity level best. So the Tiger Claw has been on my radar for several years, but I never felt the need to invest in one.

Honestly, I have been carrying a Spyderco Civilian for the last couple of years. Extremely purpose built, I keep it in its zipper case and pack it when I travel to areas where a knife is ok but a gun is not. I carry it in my back right pocket to draw and Spydie Drop open since it's tip down only. That said, it's not the most practical.

When the Big River offered a limited time deal on a fully serrated Tiger Claw for under $90, I just had to give it a shot. I know it is straighter and sports a lot of handle, but I figured that the Thumb Plate would aid in deploying the knife and act pretty much as well as the add on Snaggletooth I purchase for my more tactical knives. UGhhhhhh, I'm so irritated with this this design😒

IMHO, that Tiger Claw does not lend itself to the thumb plate opener. Due to the shape of the blade, drawing it in a forward grip requires a rolling that will snap it open at the expense of potentially cutting any shirt in its path or your back pock of your pants. OK, no big deal. I was planning on drawing this in a reverse grip, as one my gripes with a lot of other Karambit style folders is that they aren't designed to be opened in a reverse grip. My Microtech Hawk Auto is a glaring example of this. Anyway, I move the pocket clip over to the left side so that it draws in reverse with my right, and I can probably deploy this thing with a practiced drag maybe 70% of the time. 10% of the time it opens 90% but doesn't lock up. 20% it doesn't overcome the back spring and snaps shut where careless fingers might fall. 😳 I nipped myself twice trying to find a reliable way to draw this knife, and I was going slow and trying to be careful.

I would have either cut out under the disk more to give it a better grab or just licensed Emerson to use the wave feature. The thumb disk is a joke on this short and inward curving blade. I decided that I would take the disk off and see if there was anything I could do to modify the knife to give a better grab on my pocket. What I found does not inspire confidence.
tiger-claw-no-disk.jpg
thumb-disk.jpg

I had never taken one of these off, be it on a CS or the Emerson ZT 630. I had thought that maybe there was a stair step down where the disk would rest on a little notch to lock it in more. Instead, I see its just this one short little T6 with a tiny bit of thread lock and nothing secondary to take some of the lateral stress off the knife nor mitigate the stress of pulling that plate upward over and over again. You can also see the slop in the over-cut of the blade.

Honestly, I have figured out how to wrist flick this knife open in a reverse grip, so I think that's what I'll do. That scrawny thumb plate isn't going back on there. Actually, the step that plate rests against isn't much worse than the plate itself to wave the knife open. I think I may take a dremel and just wallow that area out where they cut too far back and see how it grabs.

All around, I DO dig the knife and plan on carrying it. It's incredibly formidable. However, I have really been kicking around getting a Talwar for my birthday next month. I'm not feeling confident with that thumb plate opener.🤷‍♂️

This may end up getting carried in my boot as a back up.
 
As far as structural integrity goes, they probably thread in and work just fine or else we’d have heard stories about Emerson and Cold Steel thumb disks and plates breaking off or other issues. The only one that comes to mind is a Kershaw Emerson blade snapping at that area.

Thanks for the write up, I’d have tried that model if it weren’t for the serrated version having those tiny CS serrations. Wide serrations are easily sharpen-able for me, generally.
 
As far as structural integrity goes, they probably thread in and work just fine or else we’d have heard stories about Emerson and Cold Steel thumb disks and plates breaking off or other issues. The only one that comes to mind is a Kershaw Emerson blade snapping at that area.

Thanks for the write up, I’d have tried that model if it weren’t for the serrated version having those tiny CS serrations. Wide serrations are easily sharpen-able for me, generally.

Yeah, I figured I am overthinking the thumb plate thing. I think the only time I have seen it sheer off was when Joe X went after it on a pole or car like a psychotic monkey. :D

I just wish it waved open easier.
 
You can do a mod , to make a cutout notch in front of the plate , like it comes on the Black Talon 2 .

Helps with catching the wave ! And preventing cloth getting stuck there , getting hung up .

Never had a strength problem myself with the plates, or heard of any , except for some dorks beating on the plates with batons .

Yeah ...don't do that ! Not made for that . :rolleyes:
 
I find my talwar thumb plate catching my pocket and starting to open when I don't want it to.

David Mary David Mary has some mod he does to the thumb plate. I'll let him explain his theory on his mods to it.
 
Thanks for all the weight in, gentle beings :)
I put the plate back on for now. I gave the pivot a shot of gun scrub and a bit of lubricant and backed the pivot screw loose 1/16 turn. It still locks up with no wiggle in any direction, but it gravity snaps open pretty easily and if I draw it in a reverse grip with the plate on the very INNER edge of my pocket closest to the fly on my jeans, it waves open decent enough.

I still may wave it, but I'm thinking I still want that Talwar for my birthday unless the Recon XL is available before the end of February ;)
 
As far as structural integrity goes, they probably thread in and work just fine or else we’d have heard stories about Emerson and Cold Steel thumb disks and plates breaking off or other issues. The only one that comes to mind is a Kershaw Emerson blade snapping at that area.

Thanks for the write up, I’d have tried that model if it weren’t for the serrated version having those tiny CS serrations. Wide serrations are easily sharpen-able for me, generally.

Order one from blades Canada and have them ship it to me. I’ll correct the serrations for a reasonable price before sending it along to you.
 
They work okay as a thumb stud alternative IMO

Yes they do. And aside from the opening hole, they are my preferred folding knife opening mechanism, over any thumb studs I've ever tried.
 
I filed the plate into a ramp and it helps to "wave" open the blade. Just mark the plate where it starts to touch the blade so you don't go too far ,then file a hollow rounded shape into the underside of the plate. It opens up the area where it will catch the fabric of your pocket and helps it grab. I did this to my Talwar and it helped immensely.
 
Sorry for the semi-necro, but I never use the high speed low drag snag on muh pocket deployment. Bit too flashy for my taste. They work okay as a thumb stud alternative IMO.

Well I don't really care for it either. However... its a karambit:) One of the reasons I don't carry my hawk auto much is because I bought it to hold it in a reverse grip. IMHO, if you are supposed to draw a knife in a reverse grip, it should be set up to deploy in a reverse grip. Now, granted, the Tiger Claw is a bit too straight for my liking for a reverse grip, but it does work. But then the whole point of a ring seems silly. At that point, I should just grind my Civilian to add a wave and send Emerson a starbucks gift card or something :P I don't need many of my knives to snap open on the draw, but if they are going to be for SD, I kinda like that they operate as they are designed. It's not a deal breaker, but it does bother me. I probably should have just ordered a Fox and been done with it, tbh.
I filed the plate into a ramp and it helps to "wave" open the blade. Just mark the plate where it starts to touch the blade so you don't go too far ,then file a hollow rounded shape into the underside of the plate. It opens up the area where it will catch the fabric of your pocket and helps it grab. I did this to my Talwar and it helped immensely.

I did the exact same thing with this TC, and it does help a lot. The curvature of the blade means you really gotta still yank it if you want it to overcome the detent. If you do it half-assed, then it can slam shut and catch your finger:P But yes, grinding it back to a ramp really really helps to grab the seam of your pocket better. I have a large Talwar on my short list if the XL Recon doesn't drop sooner than later.

Yes they do. And aside from the opening hole, they are my preferred folding knife opening mechanism, over any thumb studs I've ever tried.
I like the discs on knives as long as they aren't a frame lock. I had a ZT 630 that was a pain to open if you didn't hold your fingers just right. You either waved it open or you struggled to engage it since your fingers naturally rested on the frame lock. After playing with them on a few models, i like them for slow rolling on lock back/frame long knives. If I am going all high speed/low drag, I think the Snaggletooth works great. I even prefer it to the Emerson wave simply because the wave works almost TOO well snapping open when you take your knife out of your pocket whether you want it to or not. I have a Snaggletooth on my 6" Holdout and Recon One. The Hold Out lives in my boot, and the Snaggletooth draws really well on that thick edge. The Recon One is more of an all purpose knife. It does work duty, but I also tend to keep it as a back up while hiking, so I like being able to get it out quickly. I have one coming for my Mayhem, but honestly it doesn't need it. The Atlas lock fidgets open just fine. Still, it's a ridiculous knife...why not add one more goofy opening option to it? :P
 
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