The Elitist's War on Bushcraft: Part III !!!Bear Grylls Knife!!!

Grease said:
As an avid Bear Grylls mocker.... He's not a resort survivor.

The time he was seen at a resort during a shoot was the one occasion where his family was staying nearby during a shoot, so he went to say hello.

I really wish people would stop pushing that woefully inaccurate story...
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I'm not gonna argue, that's not why I came here. A quick search on "Bear Grylls fake hotel" provides some good reading. Let me just tell you what you need to hear:


[video=youtube;ZXk5ru5gJQM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXk5ru5gJQM[/video]
 
Grease said:
As an avid Bear Grylls mocker.... He's not a resort survivor.

The time he was seen at a resort during a shoot was the one occasion where his family was staying nearby during a shoot, so he went to say hello.

I really wish people would stop pushing that woefully inaccurate story...
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[video=youtube;3UpSlpvb1is]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UpSlpvb1is[/video]

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Well, it was definitely funny! Other than the Def Leppard song, I enjoyed it! Especially the A-team & Zamfir's lonely Shephard from Kill Bill vol.1!
 
I love it when arm chairs cowboys want to mock a trained soldier simply who has made a good living based on his commitment to the military and some craziness..I'd make a bet that most of the folks who love to trash him online only know about the woods, or survival for that matter, what they've "observed" while eating their microwave dinners from the couch, or while they are goofing off at work, and perhaps a few hour day trip once or twice a year..boils down to old fashioned jealousy ( I apologize to the legit woodsman..this post isn't directed at you)..but to the hata's since you can't do what he does..just make fun of him, at least you'll get some fanboys to get your back from their couches too..

Like many who actually go in the woods, I understand the "junk" from the legit stuff he represents, but all in all, I've enjoyed his programs, just thankful, Ol' Les was there for a crosscheck & a different approach..but I will say my kids got an interest in the woods, and were up for more outings than usual because they enjoyed bear's entertainment/personality, and the true skills he highlights in between the stuff that they hired him to do, as a showman.

By the way..not everybody has the same idea in mind for a survival knife, anymore that we all like the same kinds of shirts, and a "BG" special, that is actually used, and acquainted with in someplace other than a living room, might actually be a tool used to perfect skills instead of dropping a ton of $ on a knife that does nothing more than show somebody's skill at putting a mirror polish on, or making a feather stick..so for the new woodslovers out there, that are easily impacted by the negativity of others, here's some advice from a guy that actually goes out in the woods/hunts/fishes/camps etc on a REGULAR basis..if you like a knife and it serves you well, who gives a flip whose name is on it...enjoy it and make your own determination; There's always a group of critics out there who love to trash anyone, or anything for that matter that doesn't align with their perspective, and you'll be happier when you personally find the balance between various sources of knowledge/advice/perspective, and most of all, actual trial & error by experience.
 
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I got my 10 yr.old son a plain edge one. It worked fine...for a while. It actually cut stuff well , was easy to sharpen , threw great sparks off the happy rod , and I didn't mind the sheath. I cut some feathersticks with it , stood up and wrist-thunked it into my splitting log. Later on my son used it and flipped on me. The tip was bent about an inch down and about 2-3 mm to the left. I straightened it up for him on my anvil with a block of wood and a ball pein hammer. Back in service again.

I didn't thunk it into the log THAT hard I thought , but the results speak for themselves. At least the one I bought has soft steel and/or heat treat. If Gerber just kept making the Prodigy with the Sandvik steel and no lousy serrations , it would be a darn good survival/bush knife and a lot better than the BG offering with the alphabet steel.

It is a usable knife , more so in plain edge , but definitely would not be a knife I'd pick as a main user. Maybe in the backyard goofing around , but not for any serious bush use. The most this knife should go for is $20 , but they're triple that here.
 
Barrabas said:
I love it when arm chairs cowboys want to mock a trained soldier simply who has made a good living based on his commitment to the military and some craziness..I'd make a bet that most of the folks who love to trash him online only know about the woods, or survival for that matter, what they've "observed" while eating their microwave dinners from the couch, or while they are goofing off at work, and perhaps a few hour day trip once or twice a year..boils down to old fashioned jealousy ( I apologize to the legit woodsman..this post isn't directed at you)..but to the hata's since you can't do what he does..just make fun of him, at least you'll get some fanboys to get your back from their couches too..

Like many who actually go in the woods, I understand the "junk" from the legit stuff he represents, but all in all, I've enjoyed his programs, just thankful, Ol' Les was there for a crosscheck & a different approach..but I will say my kids got an interest in the woods, and were up for more outings than usual because they enjoyed bear's entertainment/personality, and the true skills he highlights in between the stuff that they hired him to do, as a showman.

By the way..not everybody has the same idea in mind for a survival knife, anymore that we all like the same kinds of shirts, and a "BG" special, that is actually used, and acquainted with in someplace other than a living room, might actually be a tool used to perfect skills instead of dropping a ton of $ on a knife that does nothing more than show somebody's skill at putting a mirror polish on, or making a feather stick..so for the new woodslovers out there, that are easily impacted by the negativity of others, here's some advice from a guy that actually goes out in the woods/hunts/fishes/camps etc on a REGULAR basis..if you like a knife and it serves you well, who gives a flip whose name is on it...enjoy it and make your own determination; There's always a group of critics out there who love to trash anyone, or anything for that matter that doesn't align with their perspective, and you'll be happier when you personally find the balance between various sources of knowledge/advice/perspective, and most of all, actual trial & error by experience.
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[video=youtube;ZXk5ru5gJQM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXk5ru5gJQM&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/video]
 
It was a cool video of the knife and traps. I enjoyed it. And I appreciate that you fast forwarded a lot of the tedious work instead of trying to make conversation in real time. Perhaps you can do one with the knife involving bees. :D

[video=youtube;h03wzwBiJbE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h03wzwBiJbE[/video]

Remember to take an epi pen or at least some benedryl tabs!
 
Thanks Codger, I appreciate it. I didn't really want to make it 8 mins or so, but I just couldn't bring myself to cut Zamfir anymore than I already did. I gotta say, it will never be my carry knife, but it did just fine in the day and a half of use I gave it. You don't see it in the video, but I threw that thing well over a hundred times, from a distance of about 12 feet or so, and I threw it HARD. I really wanted to see if it would take it, since in my opinion, throwing is brutally hard on knives. It took the beating. As for the bees video, only if you'll be my cameraman.
 
Outstanding...some true moments of comic genius there.

I've got one of these, and actually got another for a family member. Lest you think I'm a total nube/wingnut, I've also got a few NWA's and several Busse/Kin. So why do I have one of these BG knives? Because I don't leave $300-$500 custom and semi-custom knives in my vehicle/trunk for extended periods of time. That's where the BG resides. While if given the choice, I would of course chose one my NMSFNO over the BG...but if something bad were to happen unexpectedly, or a spontaneous day hike presented itself, I'd have the BG for the simple fact that it would probably be there.

Now looking at the knife itself, Gerber got far more right than wrong with this knife IMHO. If it didn't have BG behind it, it would probably have alot more praise. First, its prices is very reasonable and will appeal to a large knife buying public, who may have heard the term 'Buck knife' before. Believe it or not, there's lots of folks that don't want to plunk down a 25%+ of their paycheck on a knife. They are looking for something to cut with, maybe slice up some hotdogs or whatever. Not pound cinderblocks into dust.

Second, its a fairly well rounded package right out of the box...knife, sheath, sharpener, firesteel, whistle? That's not too shabby to buy and go. And in a fairly neat and size efficient package. It's also got a very easy to find blaze orange trim to it, which makes sense. I sorta laugh at all these 'tacticool' camo knives. Unless your spec ops or something, that's not the best idea. Loosing your knife in the woods isn't a good thing. All my field knives have blaze orange lanyards (at least).

Third--yes, its not S30V or some other wonder steel. Ummm, its ~$55 folks...you want high end, go drop a chunck of change accordingly. But it is a stainless (low maintenance) which is probably good for the intended market. Also, serrated or not, you can have it your way. Personally, for what I'd use this knife for, I'd want the serrations. They have their place, and as I say, for my intended use, I'd prefer them to be there. No, the tip won't take a 30 degree flex or hammer blows while wedged in a vice...so, umm, don't do that. I'm old enough to remember when 'prying' with a knife, especially the tip, was considered idiotic. Same was using it for a screw driver.

Ergos are quite good...there's probably more than a few higher end knives that wish their grips were as secure/comfortable as the BG's. The hammer pommel is also thoughtful. If you can't admit that, well, your bias is showing.

I don't see this as a heritage/life-time/pass it down to the grandkids kinda knife like a Randall, Busse, or NWA. I see it as a use-the-crab-out-of-it-making-memories-and-if-it-breaks-or-gets-lost-go-get-another-one-no-biggie knife. It will appeal to the general occasional day-hiker and the like. It would also be a great 'intro' knife to kids interested in the outdoors before the graduate to a higher end blade. And as I indicated, not a bad 'trunk' knife...gives the monkey something to play with while he's in there.

So all in all, for the $$, you could do alot worse.

Oh, and the next gen. looks to have some significant improvements, that may well move it into the realm of 'serious' hard-use field knife. If so, and the price is right, I'll probably snag one or two.

Just my $.02 worth, YMMV.
BOSS
 
Excellent post, Boss1. That sums it up for me almost to a T.
 
I suspect that the knife, and most of the BG signature gear, suffers from lampooning as much as it attracts buyers because of it's celeb endorsement. It isn't one that I need, but I represent a tiny fraction of the knife market. I do enjoy a good, lighthearted review though where the reviewer demonstrates some real world knife skills and uses with the knife and without trying to destroy the knife or make it a fluff piece about the knife.
 
I ejoyed the video. My major issue with Gerber has always been poor edge holding. Is it possible they have their heat treating sorted out?

I remember the first show I saw with BG. It was before they gave him the series. He was in Colorado where I lived at the time. There was much hype over the potential of a bear in the woods. He heard a noise off in the distance and took off running down hill as fast as he could! Then he came to a cliff above a fast moving mountain stream and demonstrated the proper way to JUMP IN! I couldn't believe they were putting on a show telling people to try to outrun bears and jump off cliffs into Colorado mountain streams... I wrote the network and expressed my concern. I was ignored and Bear got a series.

Clearly I am not a TV producer for a good reason.



www.brachknives.com
 
I'm going to leave this thread open on my computer until my wife gets home because she will also enjoy it. :) Thanks for taking the time.
 
First of all a very funny video
And it show the knife cuts

But
Ummm, its ~$55 folks.....you want high end, go drop a chunck of change accordingly.
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For what it, it is a very expensive knife that costs because of the hype and marketing

$50 is a sum of money that I can choose from five or six very high quality Scandinavian knives
And they are not high end, but certainly are made to last
 
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