The end of Kershaw/ZT DLC coating?

I am in breach of your contract on this forum knarfeng knarfeng . You should ban me to be honest with you. I am not trying to cause strife but I posted what I did to help the people who, If they want it, Know where to get it for free now and how.

I actually respect you guys although it's not so much reciprocated, I have to earn that. Not especially trying to frankly on the internet.
 
FBHORTMcc said:
I am in breach of your contract on this forum knarfeng knarfeng . You should ban me to be honest with you. I am not trying to cause strife but I posted what I did to help the people who, If they want it, Know where to get it for free now and how.

I actually respect you guys although it's not so much reciprocated, I have to earn that. Not especially trying to frankly on the internet.
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I'm assuming this is not something you are used to but I'm a man and while it's wrong - I just don't care about the libtarded internet and people make the fatal mistake thinking that I am trying to make friends, whereas I am just trying to properly educate people instead of half giving a fact that is then taken incorrectly and misconstrued like a game of telephone. I can admit that. You can ban me. You won't lose or gain any of my respect for doing that. It's a non-issue.
 
MolokaiRider said:
F FBHORTMcc

I don't read anything in this thread that warrants banning. It's a conversation, and they organically flow from a wide pool of members.

I am a fan of DLC when done correctly.
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Yessir you are correct but this would not be the conversation that initially got me banned. I'm the type that is going to tell ya what i think especially if I know it pisses you off if I dont respect ya and respect is earned. both ways. likewise with trust. henceforth, my honesty with me quote unquote "ban evading". I am also a fan! key word! done correctly ;)
 
knarfeng said:
They undoubtedly use a third party. DLC is a vapor deposition process. Has to be performed in a vacuum chamber under high vacuum. Very pricey specialized equipment to do it. Nobody does it as an in-house operation. Even aerospace companies outsource it.
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Then I'm willing to bet that the wait times for DLC work, and the prices have climed exponentially in the past year or two, and both companies decided to switch to something they can do in house, for a reasonable price. Maybe if things ever get back to "normal" they'll re-introduce DLC to their product lines.
 
FBHORTMcc said:
I'm assuming this is not something you are used to but I'm a man and while it's wrong - I just don't care about the libtarded internet and people make the fatal mistake thinking that I am trying to make friends, whereas I am just trying to properly educate people instead of half giving a fact that is then taken incorrectly and misconstrued like a game of telephone. I can admit that. You can ban me. You won't lose or gain any of my respect for doing that. It's a non-issue.
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I think that “trying to properly educate people” is a very friendly thing to do. Good information seems to be becoming harder to find. Educate away!
 
tiguy7 said:
I think that “trying to properly educate people” is a very friendly thing to do. Good information seems to be becoming harder to find. Educate away!
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tiguy7 said:
FBHO— tells me that TDLC is a type of DLC. I would love to have a tutorial covering the nuances.
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Well, that won't be happening, at least under these two user names: https://www.bladeforums.com/threads...y-steel-off-cuts.1879232/page-2#post-21315821

Maybe you could wait until he joins under another one?
 
craytab said:
Well, that won't be happening, at least under these two user names: https://www.bladeforums.com/threads...y-steel-off-cuts.1879232/page-2#post-21315821

Maybe you could wait until he joins under another one?
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Ha ha! Turns out he's this guy: https://www.bladeforums.com/threads...shonest-so-were-putting-him-on-blast.1863788/

Takes a special kind to get a dedicated thread by the HPIC. Not sure I'd take any advice from him on DLC/TDLC/WWC or YMCA....

And yeah, cerakote sucks as a coating. Only marginally better than spray paint. I'm not a fan of coatings in general but I can tolerate them on the right knife. What I cannot tolerate is a weak ass coating marketed as tough but actually whimpers away when barely used. I'm not talking just showing scratches. I'm talking about coming off with light use. It's a joke.
 
tiguy7 said:
I think that “trying to properly educate people” is a very friendly thing to do. Good information seems to be becoming harder to find. Educate away!
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Sorry, I’ve been on tons of forums where most people who feel it’s their God-given duty to enlighten and educate the lowly lesser-informed masses are usually the most annoying and boorish people around. They’re not satisfied just contributing to a conversation, they have to make sure everybody knows how much they know, which usually isn’t anywhere close to what they think they know. It’s not friendly, it’s self-aggrandizing, and usually sends otherwise good conversations spiraling into flame wars.

Now back to our regularly scheduled thread topic.
 
"Legends in their own mind" is the phrase that comes to mind.
This thread at one time was giving me food for thought. Oh well.
Time to find a new thread on this subject.
 
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craytab said:
This is absolutely a downgrade. Cerakote comes off if you look at it wrong.
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tokerblue said:
I'm not a fan of coatings on blades, but there's no doubt that Cerakote is a downgrade.
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Should we expect Kershaw's Cerakote to be better/equal/ or worse than their black oxide finish? Although their black oxide doesn't seem as bad as other company's coatings it was definitely subpar to dlc by a long ways imo
 
I remember asking this on Kershaw's instagram and they confirmed that DLC was no more. I am saddened, as the DLC on my Blur has been pretty damned wear-proof.
And it can be a thing of art when they did the polished DLC. The Kershaw Ripcord has the Polished DLC and is amazing to look at.
Like others said, Cerakote/Duracoat and the like are little better than a rattlecan paintjob.

DLC, while not impervious to wear, can stand up to the rigors a knife blade needs to. Other coatings cannot.
 
stillshot2 said:
Should we expect Kershaw's Cerakote to be better/equal/ or worse than their black oxide finish? Although their black oxide doesn't seem as bad as other company's coatings it was definitely subpar to dlc by a long ways imo
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Depends on what aspect you are judging. If it is showing wear then I'd say worse, since in my experience from bm, cerakote is only a slight upgrade from basic spray paint.
 
Cerakote while a fine product is a quantifiably lesser coating for cutlery. If anyone doubts that just buy a knife with DLC and one with Cerakote and then strip the blades and let me know what was easier to remove.
 
For anyone that would be interested out of curiosity I sent an email to Kershaw asking why they no longer offer DLC coated blades and this was the official response I received:

"Thank you for reaching out to us and your interest in Kershaw knives. Regarding the change from DLC to Cerakote; for the longest time we used vendors for the coating. Relaying on others led to delays and created a logistics problem. This past year we finally acquired all the equipment we needed to coat our knives. Going with Cerakote was a business decision."

Looks like Silent H's post was pretty much spot on
 
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