the Fällkniven S1 was designed for ?

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I can remember a post on KF where peter of fallkniven said that the S1 was designed to be a military knife a medium size between the A1-F1 & was supposed to be the M1 (M for marines).But the Military had not taken a contract for this knife.So fallkniven has change the M1 name for S1 to make it the forest knife...a marketing trick.

Sorry for my english is bad,i hope you can understand my post.

I'm not able to find this post on the fallkniven forum so if someone can find it please let me know.
 
people here are able to go on both forum ;)
I dont say go there but if someone here seen the post in question just let me know.
 
we can read this on the fallkniven website
(S1 The Forest Knife is probably the best hunting and fishing knife ever made)

It's hard to believe when a knife has been designed for military application!?

what do you guys think about the fallkniven marketing?
 
I have no idea what your objection is. The Fallkniven F1 was designed as a survival knife for Swedish Air Force pilots. That doesn't prevent it from being a popular camp, hunting and fishing knife.

While not as effective for chopping as the A1, the S1 is a good compromise in size between the F1 and the A1 and, IMHO, is an excellent choice for outdoorsmen. I wish the Fallkniven A1 and/or S1 existed back when I was on active duty; either would have been far more practical than my Gerber Mark II. How does the fact a knife is suitable for military applications inexplicably render it unsuitable for hunters and fishermen? :confused:
 
a military designed knife that become the best hunting and fishing knife ever made wow happy coincidence.

I like this knife that's all.
 
You find it amazing that a knife designed for military survival also makes for a good civilian survival knife as well? I'm sorry but I'm not sure I find anything astonishing or coincidental about the matter.
 
i dont understand how the two are mutually exclusive, My RC-4 in tan is my military knife and my camping/hiking knife is another RC-4. they work excellently for both purposes which are actually almost the exact same thing. thy both cut random stuff and have enough durability to do a little chopping and/or prying. the f1 has been around for years. i have a book of military small arms that i hav ehad for years and it lists an f1 but it is not made by fallkniven, it seem to be the exact same knife tho and its described as being designed for the swedish military. honestly i dont know what speacial things infantry/SF/Rangers are supposed to do with knives. we mainly open mre's and cut 550 with them, we have firearms to do our fighting with, and im backing my rifle up when i deploy with a tomahawk for breaching and (in the unlikley shtf type event) cqc. bottom line :THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A MILITARY AND CIVILIAN SURVIVAL KNIFE EXCEPT THE MARKETING.
 
It seems more military than sportsman to me just because of the clip blade rather than a more gradual dropped point like the F1. Still, it is a very good knife for most outdoor tasks.

I would prefer the F1 as a hunting knife, but the S1 makes a good general purpose camp knife.
 
I have never heard that the S1 was originally designed as a military knife, although I would not be surprised that marketing to military(s) may well have been a consideration during the design and development stage.

The S1 is really a little brother to the A1 and A2 (i.e. it shares more similarities with these two knives than it does with the F1)

The S1 is marketed as a Forest Knife, The A1 as a Survival Knife, and the A2 as a Wilderness Knife.

Realistically they are 5" , 6.5", and 8" versions of essentially the same knife. All suited to a variety of hunting, fishing, camping, or survival tasks.

If Fallkniven did indeed design it for a military contract that was never executed, and then spun it as a hunting and hiking knife, so be it, that's what companies do to recover R&D costs and make a profit. Lemons into Lemonade.

It is a great little knife, regardless of how it is marketed.

Kevin
 
The S1 is thinner and has a smaller handle than the A1 and A2. It some ways it's like a bigger F1 with a clip point.
Marketing is a side issue. They are all great knives.
 
Varulv said:
we can read this on the fallkniven website
(S1 The Forest Knife is probably the best hunting and fishing knife ever made)

It's hard to believe when a knife has been designed for military application!?

what do you guys think about the fallkniven marketing?
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First, compare the Fallkniven S1 with the Cold Steel SRK. Similar size and profile. Both have been used successfully in both military and civilian applications.

Now compare the Ka-Bar Fighting/Utility Knife and the Marbles Ideal. The Ideal was a camp and hunting knife, and outdoorsman's tool. Yet in an almost identical format, it became the iconic military knife.

The functions overlap because most of what a soldier needs in a knife is a tool for the outdoors, for camping and for survival. Dueling is an historical tradition, not a modern practice.
 
As discussed on BF, the Bowie knife was originally a large, heavy duty hunting /camping knife , NOT a combat knife.AGRussell supplied documentation for this !!.
If you hunt deer use a F-1 or H-1. If you hunt moose or elk use a S-1.
Varulv, sometimes on an international forum it's better to tell us where you live and other details.
 
mete said:
Varulv, sometimes on an international forum it's better to tell us where you live and other details.
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Why? I don't think my country has something to do with knives discussion.

Anyway i'm born in Poland & i live in Canada since 2007
 
Varulv said:
Why? I don't think my country has something to do with knives discussion.
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Well, I don't think it pertains to this particular issue, but there are discussions where location can make a difference. Take, for example, axes and choppers. Steels and grinds that work very well in Europe may not be optimal for North America and Australia. So, someone from Europe may state that steel 'x' works great and holds an edge forever while users from areas where woods are harder (on average) may not agree. Both sides are 'right' for their particular regions but comparisons between the two become 'apples to oranges' discussions.
 
Fargus is right. Maybe not country, but specific environment is critical to discussing the right knife to use.
 
In the knife makers section we're often asked "where can I get ----" .A steel readily available in the USA may be difficult to find in another part of the world.
 
Varulv said:
But the Military had not taken a contract for this knife.So fallkniven has change the M1 name for S1 to make it the forest knife
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Hey Varulv,

Just wondering if you are thinking of the MC1, Mine Clearance Knife, which was in fact developed specifically for military purposes.

I haven't seen the post you referred to, so maybe I'm not on the right track, but thought I'd ask.

Kevin
 
Dag-nabit said:
Hey Varulv,

Just wondering if you are thinking of the MC1, Mine Clearance Knife, which was in fact developed specifically for military purposes.

I haven't seen the post you referred to, so maybe I'm not on the right track, but thought I'd ask.

Kevin
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Exactly what I was thinking!:thumbup:


Varulv said:
Why? I don't think my country has something to do with knives discussion.
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Well, since Fallkniven is a foriegn company to begin with, and it is possible that they market their knives differently (translation) depending on location, I think the question about your location was probably an attempt to see if that might be the case here.;)

Regards,
3G
 
The S1 was a military knife but like was stated before it fell through so they geared it towards the civilian market.I for one am very glad they did as I own 2 of them.
As for what it can do? I Have carried mine in every type of weather this country can throw at me.Blazing hot sand of beaches to deep wet swamp and floating bog to deep bitter cold in the woods and it's laughed at every task I've ever put it up to.
 
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