The family of SAK.

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Being a knife knut sometimes means you realize that you are on the fringe of things. Society tends to look a bit sideways at people who adore sharp objects. Collect all the stamps and coins you wish, and you'll just be a little strange. But collect knives, and you're a modern Jack The Ripper. Except for SAK's. For some reason, SAK's seem to have a bit of a reprieve on the negative. Maybe all the years of being a backpackers tool, maybe a certain TV show in the 1980's helped. But the little red knife from the land of great chocolate and cheese with holes in it, gets a stamp of respectability.

I never gave a lot of thought to this, as my main love is the traditional pocket knife, with a SAK somewhere in the background. I got my first SAK in 1969, so we have a long history together, even if it rode in a daypack as a 'just in case' instead of in my pocket. But then I met this girl. On a shooting range no less.

A nice summer morning in Texas, and I was doing some pistol practice, and there was this girl with a Smith and Wesson .22 revolver. Notable in it's own right, but she was turning out a target, shooting one handed real target style, better than I was doing with two handed combat style. Over a drink she shared a doughnut with me, halving it with the boy scout knife from her purse. About 8 months later we were married. I figured any girl with a knife in her purse and can out shoot me is a keeper.

Anyways, she loved carrying that old scout knife her dad had given her. It had been his, and he had moved on to a SAK, and given his girl his old scout knife. Seems dad was an ex-navy man and outdoorsman who loved boating, long canoe trips in Maine and the Boundry waters in Minnisota. That was when he wasn't off on a backpacking trip. As our life together went on, my new better half saw my SAK, and in the way wives have, instantly laid claim to it. She loved that it had even more tools than her dad's old scout knife that got retired to family artifact. Then came the kids.

Three kids later, and soccer, and cub scouts, and girl scouts, and family vacations, the kids saw me use my knife many times. My old Buck 301 stockman saw a lot of duty, but so did my new SAK that I bought to replace the one claimed by the wife. Raising three kids on the run means lots of running repairs on stuff while on trips to the zoo, soccer, scouts, and the beach. I eventually learned that kids see and record more than we think.

One day on a little hike in the woods, my oldest boy, John, wants to 'borrow' my knife to whittle a stick for roasting a hot dog over the small fire we'd made. I go to hand him my old Buck, and he says, "no dad, your real knife. The red one." This of course gives me reason to think about this. In spite of all the times I'd used the 301 stockman to cut something,John didn't hold it as high regard as the red handle tool equipped SAK. I later found out my Daughter had felt the same. When Jessica finally got to the point of being old enough to have a pocket knife, I asked her what she wanted. She gave me a funny look and asked if that was a trick question. "No dad, one like mom's. I want a Swiss Army knife. And it has to have a nail file." Okay.

I guess the die was cast early on, with all my kids being sakkist's. Fan's of the SAK. John, my oldest, travels a lot for business, and always carries a SAK. One of the small 58mm's no less. Maybe places like Amsterdam, London, Munich, have an influence. My daughter loved SAK's and won't bother with anything else. I once asked her if she wanted a nice GEC or Case, and she answered in her blunt honest way. "Dad, why would I want a knife that only does one thing?"

I guess she has a point.

That left only my third and youngest kid. Matt. Of all my kids, I think Matt is the one that is most like me. Even as a little kid, he was more practical than his siblings, and more mature at an earlier age. Of course when he got old enough to join the scouts, he did. In that era the scouts had switched to carrying SAK's, with no sign of the great old Camillus, Imperial, Schrade, and other brand scout knives that we had when I was kid. Victorinox seemed to have taken over the scout game by the 1980's, and with the help of a certain TV character, a SAK was what every kid wanted. So my youngest kid was seduced by the Swiss Gods of tool knives. These days, Matt goes through his life a country police officer with a Victoriox pioneer in his pocket. Says he loves to have a screw driver/light pry tool on hand.

The other day, I saw definite sign that the next generation of jackknife clan is going to be SAK people. My granddaughter got a splinter while playing on some big timber climbing thing on the playground. She comes up to where we're sitting on the bench showng the splinter to 'mommy.' With no hesitation, Jess pulls her keyring out of her purse, and takes the tweezers from her bright yellow classic, and pulls out the splinter. Briana goes back to playing, no fuss, no muss. At age 5, Briana is already conscious of edc stuff. She has her own Fenix E01, and a few other items. Not that long ago, she was looking at my keyring laying on the coffee table and noted that I had the same little knifelike mommy's, but in red. Then she made the pronouncement that she wanted one when use got 'old enough.'

I fear she's already lost to the world of jigged bone and carbon steel. But at least she'll have a knife on her if needed.
 
Within your narrative lies the truth of the matter. For all-around EDC pocket knives, SAKs are best. Interestingly enough, that seems to be more obvious to the general public, including children, than to many of us knifeknuts, who are largely hobbyists. The rest of the world focusses on utility. Why settle for a tool that "only does one thing" when in the same package you could have 4 or more? Face it, of their class, SAKs are also the best made of any. And consider; it's not often you can own the very best item in any category at an affordable price. Your kids have it right.
 
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...and don't forget the crinking...it's all about the crinking; no one manufacturer of multi-blade/tool knives can lay claim to absolutely perfect crinking. My 35+ year old SAK's, that, I'm ashamed to say, I abused and mis-used with abandon, have never developed blade rub. BNIB semi-custom's and high dollar customs have suffered this annoyance, but never a SAK.
 
OK, we can all log out now. It's been fun, guys. :D

But seriously, you're absolutely right. I have lots of knives around the house, and I enjoy picking just the right one for the job at hand. But that's because I have always been fascinated by knives. I used to wonder if I should vary the knife I put in my pocket every day, but I always end up carrying a SAK, and the logic is always the same - a single-use knife means I am less prepared. The general non-knut populace, only interested in having one knife, uses the same logic and buys a SAK.

Which leads us to the question: WHY HAVEN'T THE OTHER COMPANIES FIGURED THIS OUT? I'd hate to think they have left it too late and don't have the capital to start up the sort of factory that could compete with Victorinox. Have they looked at the crinking on a SAK and just given up? :)
 
I love your story and saur is completely right. I just got my first SAK a few months ago, an orange alox farmer, and I'm in love. It kicked my Spyderco native 5 out of my pocket. I have a lot of spydies and case's and can't believe that I've been missing out this whole time. Spydies are great knives but are expensive and case is fun to collect but quality has been disappointing. Victorinox has taken over my browser history. Today I ordered a davy's gray vagabond and can't wait to get it. I think that with the farmer is going to be a great combo. This is going to be a fun ride!
 
Oh, don't get me wrong, I love my SAK's, and wouldn't have had them around since 1969 if I didn't see how great they were. But I guess I feel just a tad of disappointment that I, one nephew, and one grandson are the only knife knuts in the family that appreciate the old pocket knives our grandfathers carried. My old Wenger SI is such a trusted war horse, it goes along very often in a daypack or duffle bag. My tiny classic is a daily companion and is in its keyring sheath everyday when I leave the house.

But…and this is my only nitpick with SAK's… they are soooooo danged sterile. I wish there was more option of having some nice stag or wood scales. Or maybe some nice jigged bone. My love for the alox SAK's like the SI and the pioneer are a two edged sword. As much as I love the rugged alox, I think I get bored with it for not having some character. Oh well, I guess it's true, you can't have everything. I have went on record for years saying that Victoriox should be the industry standard for fit and finish of a mass produced pocket knife, and I still feel that way. Heck, my vacation pocket knife is always a SAK that I either mail to myself where I will be staying, or buy at the first big box store I come to from the airport. I can't think of any other brand that I can buy blind, and know it will be just as good as the one back home, or the next one. Victoriox has great product predicability. I've seen some Case and even GEC's that come with some unacceptable defects from the factory at much higher prices.

Maybe I'll just have to have some custom scales made.
 
My mom has always had a Vic huntsman in her bag. Even when she downsized from the college backpack that was diaper bag, kid snack dispenser, survival kit, and house-call bag, that vic has stayed along with. hardly ever used, but critical when needed.
 
Which leads us to the question: WHY HAVEN'T THE OTHER COMPANIES FIGURED THIS OUT? I'd hate to think they have left it too late and don't have the capital to start up the sort of factory that could compete with Victorinox. Have they looked at the crinking on a SAK and just given up? :)

I don't think Victorinox's position is unassailable, actually and hasn't been for years.

IMO, there are 2 kinds of SAK buyers. The internet is allowing collectors to buy huge numbers of SAK variants in large numbers and in ways that was much harder in the days of brick and mortar or mail order. That's good for SAK, just as it's good for Buck, GEC, Case, Zero Tolerance and other brands who have customers who buy bulk to build their collection.

The second type of buyer are the users and it is among users that I think their position is less strong. Several observations...

LIMITED CONSUMER MARKET APPEAL? - I don't have access to Victorinox sales numbers but judging from the amount of retail display real estate afforded to them by retailers like Target, Walmart, K-Mart, Lowes and Home Depot, the biggest sellers are the key chain sized Classic and smaller traditional knives like the Tinker. Indisputably, these knives are icons and deservedly so. Outside of a few models, I don't see much interest in SAKs of other types, at least among the general public. In this way, I think icon status can work as a two edged sword sometimes. Sometimes, consumers buy an iconic thing and mentally check off that they now have a "thing" without giving much thought to which kind of "thing" they want or need and just as often, without real need for use. You see this all the time with bicycle sales and xc ski equipment. People buy the stuff to have the stuff and it sits mostly unused in the garage. But the consumer good is satisfying the mental dream that the consumer is the kind of person who would own and use that thing, but just not this weekend because we're too busy. I suspect this general weakening in the consumer market is exactly why Victorinox killed off the Wenger line - to solidify the focus of the SAK market.

LOST THE HARD USE MARKET - The camper/SAK is no longer the preferred tool of hard use users, at least that I can tell. When I talk to people in the trades, law enforcement, agriculture and the military, they've almost entirely moved to a modern single blade folder and/or a multi-tool. Victorinox has responded by adding a Leatherman knock-off (a nice one, but still a knock off) and by expanding their line of large folders to follow the new, modern Soldier model.

LOST THE OUTDOOR MARKET - Go into any outdoor equipment store and check out the retail display space given to SAKs. You will find Gerbers (with Bear's muddy face), Leatherman and some selection of modern folders like Benchmade perhaps. You will see a very small number of SAKs, maybe 1 or 2 models. At least, this is what I'm seeing inn outdoor stores across New England. It's also what I see on the trails. Small multi-tools, modern folders and in recent years, small fixed blades are what I'm seeing people use in camps.

"D-4." "MISS." "D-5." "AH. YOU SUNK MY BATTLESHIP." - I think Leatherman, Gerber, SOG and the countless other muti-tools makers are one product away from delivering a fatal blow to the classic camper pattern. Somebody is going to produce a Leatherman type tool that is about the size of a Farmer and that weighs 3 oz or less and when they do, there will be a viable true pocket carry type multi-tool available. Leatherman has gotten close to this on a number of occasions and have just missed the mark (as they currently are with the Juice line) but eventually somebody is going to stumble on the right mix. Leatherman *COULD* do it if they combined the Micra style legacy frame with the Juice sized plier head. And if either Leatherman or Gerber did it with their large brand recognition... then IMO it's a fatal blow to camper pattern (outside of traditional collectors)

A word on social acceptance.... My experience is that multi-tools have the same degree of social acceptance that SAKs currently enjoy. Pull one out, and people see a tool, not a knife. That's been my experience anyway.
 
Having spent more than 30+ years of active duty in the military, I can say without equivocation, that the overwhelming majority of soldiers, sailors, airmen, and Marines who have an almost daily need for a pocket knife, will have a SAK; that said, those who bloviate about knives, are contrarian by nature, take a subjective approach when evaluating a hard use folder that also happens to be a multi-tool SAK, and who proffer poor substitutes for the real thing says only one thing...they probably drink RC instead of Coca-Coal.:)
 
Sean has some nice SAKs with wood scales in his shop. We should pay him a visit ;)...

I've found that I only carry my alox blue, or what used to be blue, farmer when I am hiking or fishing, and my black alox pioneer when I am imbibing cider (seems like most of the bottling plants haven't found twistoffs yet...).

I've never heard "Why do you carry that?" when I pull out a SAK. No one has ever freaked out when I pull it out. I bet I could use it anywhere, anywhere outside of an installation that had a rule about a blade of 2.5" or more not being allowed ;) , and no one would bat an eye.
 
Alnamvet68,

When did you get out? My direct interaction with military personnel has been mid 90s through current. I can't name a single one I know of who carries an SAK but tons who carry a multi-tool.

Is this a generational thing?

Regarding bloviating... keep at it. You've almost matched my post count. P/K/B
 
As for multitools, I own an old Leatherman Wave, my new style Wave having been lost in my auto accident. I kept my foot and my life, I wouldn't want to trade either to get the Wave back, good trade all around. I also own a Vic Swisstool Spirit with the "good" blade. I used up the saw using a firesteel last year. I also used the swisstool pliers cutting fencing, probably not a good idea. I had a SOG powerlock, which was a great MT, but I got caught up in the trading frenzy. Victorinox and the late Wenger had that instant brand recognition that even Leatherman has not equaled. Most non knife people that I've talked to that served in the military were issued Gerber multitools, and they are surprised that my well made MTs are not Gerbers (one of the last few well made Gerber products). Like kleenex and tissues, Leatherman is the generic term for a multitool.
 
Alnamvet68,

When did you get out? My direct interaction with military personnel has been mid 90s through current. I can't name a single one I know of who carries an SAK but tons who carry a multi-tool.

Is this a generational thing?

Regarding bloviating... keep at it. You've almost matched my post count. P/K/B

Rear echelon non-combatant types typically don't carry anything more complicated or threatening than perhaps, a Trac-fone.;)
 
I think internationally Vic still has a very strong following. Yes here in australia some are insanely over-priced, but only when you compare them to other places. So if you didn't know a tinker should be 20$, 45$ doesn't seem like a big deal when a leatherman rebar is $100. Also considering that SAKs are enshrined in law here as being allowed for carry due to "obvious utility purposes"
 
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