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IF you are bitten by any snake in Australia DO NOT TRY AND KILL IT, it will more thank likely bite again. A snake will not inject venom with every bite, you may only have had what is know as a 'dry bite'. If you are bitten, treat it as if venom has been injected; use a pressure bandage to reduce the blood flow in the limb that has taken the hit. Start from the body end of the limb and work your way towards the end of the limb when applying the bandage. Keep calm, do not get your blood pumping and seek medical help ASAP.

Do not wash the wound, as any venom left on the outside of in the bite can be used to identify what type of snake attacked you.

This above approach is good for Australian snakes due, to the type of venom they all have, not sure on the approach for venomous snakes outside of Australia.

I’ve been walking in the Australian bush for years and have only every seen a few snakes. Each time, they where stopped and taking the sun, laying across a path, when they picked up my foot steps, they all took off in a different direction to the way I was walking in from.

The biggest risk from Australian snakes are the front fanged ones, such as the Brown, the rear fanged snakes such as the Black built more for attacking small prey and their fangs are set far back into their mouth, so boots and gaiters are good for this type of snake. With a large Brown, their fangs are able to penetrate normal leather boots, this is the case with most large (>5’) front fanged snakes, due to the length and how sharp the fangs are. In America I’ve seen snake hunters, using special boots, when they collect Rattlesnakes, there is a hard armored covering under the leather, similar to some motor cycle boots.

To snake we a HUGE, they will only bite to protect themselves, they do not want to try and kill us. So I agree about walking through long grass – don’t – and think like a snake, they are after food, so in Australia, anywhere near water is going to increase your chance of coming in contact with a snake and the majority feed on water dependant reptiles. The other main staple for them is small rodents, so be aware of any place that is likely to have a large concentrations of these small furry dinner bites, corn field, grain storage human food scraps (rats love these) etc…

Never put your hand in a hole, never step over a log, step on top and look down and see if anything is waiting on the other side and walk heavy when you think you are in a high risk area, this will let the snake know to get out of your way.
 
all very good tips thanks people . the other thing is i never go out into that field alone . always got my mate or my girlfriend with me
 
Thought y'all might like a photo

Healthy, well fed dugite - almost black from the early summer sun

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you could always carry a flute instesd of a stick, as soon as the snake comes towards you play a tune the snake will become hypnotised, take a couple of snaps with the camera then make a run for it, something for the scrap book ha
 
Snakes will usually go out of their way to avoid you but if you do get bit try and kill the snake and take it with you to hospital so it can be identified !

I am not sure if this is good advice mate.
If you get bit, make sure you do not get bit a second time chasing the snake.
Do not exert yourself thus spreading the venom in your body.
Use a compression bandage and get somebody to get help if possible, stay as still as possible.
The hospital all carry antidotes even if you present the Snake they will likely do tests to ensure there is no confusion. Medical staff are not snake experts or identifyers they would not know a King Brown from a Red Bellied Black Snake.
They rely on medical tests.
Lastly stay out of their way, most are fairly passive many are extremely venomous.

Cut and past here.
Australia is the habitat for quite a number of the world’s most lethal serpents. The Inland Taipan is a very rare species and believed to be the most toxic of all snakes, it makes the Cobra look like a garter snake. One bite delivers enough venom to kill around 100 people. A close cousin, the Taipan, reaches a length of over 10 feet and is very aggressive. It strikes without warning, not once, but several times, injecting a venom that clots blood and can kill in minutes. The Death Adder, relative of the Cobra, has a bite that is lethal in 50% of cases that go untreated. Other potential killers are the Tiger snake, the Australian Black snake and the Brown snake, whose bites cause the most deaths in Australia.
 
i once went near a mound of grass near the highway in summer , and there were about 10 1 metre long tiger snakes just sunning themselves . needless to say , i didn`t stick around.
 
Not too many poisonous snakes in Canada, maybe a few rattlers in southern British Columbia, but there are LOTS of slithery politicians. Unfortunately, most are protected except during elections, and they wouldn't be good eatin' in any event.

Most here are protected too, unfortunately.

As for the snakes, I've never been afraid of them, but I've never picked a fight either. Gaitors and long sticks sound like good ideas, and making noise also. I would think if you are somewhat careful and give them plenty of opportunity to leave, you should be fine. If only the politicians were so considerate...
 
what would u guys carry for first aid in case u get bitten by say a brown snake when on foot in the bush and say about 1/2 a day walk to a vechile ??


cheers forrie
 
what would u guys carry for first aid in case u get bitten by say a brown snake when on foot in the bush and say about 1/2 a day walk to a vechile ??


cheers forrie

A compression bandage, some anti-septic cream and hopefully a mobile phone with coverage.
All you can do is wash the bite and apply a compression bandage to slow the flow of the venom and call for help or send someone for help.
If you had to walk out of the bush for several hours then be transported to Hospital your chances of surviving are not so good.
 
I can't repeat enough.... don't mess with the snake. A large percentage of snakebites occur when people are trying to catch or otherwise "mess with" snakes. Respect the snake's space, and whatever you do, dont drink and snake-handle.

From the snakebite wikipedia entry...

"In the United States more than 40% of snakebite victims intentionally put themselves in harms way by attempting to capture wild snakes or by carelessly handling their dangerous pets - 40% of that number had a blood alcohol level of 0.1 percent or more.[6]" :D
 
They had a snake man on TV yesterday and he made a point that I haven't considered before. The hostpitals have testing kits to determine the nature of the venom and can easily do this if there has been some left on the skin or around the puncture wounds - so there is no need to try to kill the snake for identification.

Pressure bandage is definetly the way to go. He told stories of people taking 12-24 hours to get to help with the pressure bandage on and feeling no effects from the venom; then feeling the full effects once it was removed. Most of the venom gets into the lymphatic system apparently, unless you are unlucky enough to get a major blood vessel punctured.
 
Almost all of the snake bite kites have proven to be less than helpful. they do not remove venom and the time taken to muck about with the kit slows people from seeking qualified help.

I HATE snakes, I know they are just eating rats etc, but I have worked in places where they were crawling with snakes, (Florida after Hurricane Andrew, Mississippi after Katrina. and other places further south) and nothing gives me the willies like a snake. Where legal i carry a 44 spec bulldog with snake medicine in it, One house in florida had a pool filled with debris, One of the guys reached in to grab some plywood and a very large 5 foot or so diamond back shot out and hit him on the wrist. Most of the bite was into his gloves and also hit his watch, but he was done working for a long time, maybe three weeks, he actually did not see the snake hit him and he thought he had somehow hit a live down wire.

Another thing to worry about in your place of relaxation, is spiders, the area you are talking about sounds like a prime place for them and Aussie spiders are notoriously nasty. http://www.usyd.edu.au/anaes/venom/envenomation.html
 
my mate said he saw a burrowing spider there , and he said it was huge. personally , i hate snakes as well , but why kill them if you don`t have to .
 
I have been in the bush a lot, I have only ever seen one Funnelweb spider and it was dead in a sink in a Hair Salon.
Snakes I have seen a few maybe 6 or 10 in 30 years and they have all been either in Town or near a Beach.
Most snakes take off, its only when you surprise them and yourself that there is an issue.
 
we saw a copperhead when i was in cadets , and it was sitting on a trail , we all walked right past it , and it ignored us , and eventually ran away.
 
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