The good, the bad and the ugly.......my 110's

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Originally posted by JackBoots
Without starting WWII over again :)

With modern materials, lighter and stronger, why do you people consider the 110 to be a modern day high quality knife ?

If seems it's time has come and gone!

Regards,

JB :)
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Interesting question - First I would question whether any of the more modern design knives are stronger. there's more metal in a 110 than you will find in pretty much any other folding knife. I can't say from experience exactly, but I would rather trust a 110 to hold up under hard use than pretty much any other knife. As far as blade material goes, you can get your 110 in BG42, which is a pretty high end steel. As time goes by, though, I find myself liking the day to day ease of the 420HC, and in fact recently ordered another knife from PCKS with a 420HC blade as an every day type knife.

As far as grip goes, the 110 is thicker than many more modern knives, which at least to my large hands translates into a much more comfortable grip than the knives which are made thinner, I believe, to conserve weight.

Speaking of weight: I just did a scientific survery (threw my 110 on the postal scale, and checked the knifecenter website) and came up with the following weights for roughly similar sized knives:
Buck 110 7.1 oz
Benchmade 710 4.5 oz
Benchmade 735 4.4 oz
Sebenza 4.5 oz
Spyderco Tim Wegner 6.0 oz

So, yes, the 110 is a heavier knife. I suppose it is up to the user to decide if that extra 1 - 2.5 oz makes the knife too heavy to carry, or simply adds a little bulk to better balance (IMHO) the knife. I do find the 110 too bulky for pocket carry myself, but I always have one in a sheath on my belt, and never notice it's there.

I also kind of like the price - I can get a 110 made to my specifications with a BG42 blade for about the price of the production Spyderco, and $30 less than the benchmades (which I like also, by the way) which both use a less expensive steel. We won't mention the price differential with the Sebenza :eek: which uses BG42 also.
 
Originally posted by JackBoots
With modern materials, lighter and stronger, why do you people consider the 110 to be a modern day high quality knife? It seems it's time has come and gone!
JB :)
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Why is the Buck 110 a modern high quality folder?

Let's see....

Because it was and is the original folding hunter that revolutionized the industry and set the standard for all those that followed.

Because of all the copies/clones and other manufacturer's "interpretations" of the knife, the 110 remains the best made lockback of it's class.

Because it's a no frills, rugged, timeless folder that has been on the market since 1964. This alone shows that it is a proven design with staying power.

Because Buck's 420HC holds a good edge despite what the steel snobs say, and it is easy to sharpen.

Because it is affordable. It does not cost an arm and a leg to own one of these good looking, classic folders.

Because it is perhaps the best mass produced factory folder ever made. Think about it....... No gimmicks, no bells & whistles, no chisel grinds, no awkward handle shape, no funky blade shape, no flimsy or complicated locking mechanisms. It is a simple clean knife designed to cut and comes with a warranty that is second to none.

If you like high grade steels, you can go to Pete's Custom Knife Shoppe and order a 110 with Damascus, ATS-34 or BG-42 steel, your choice of handle materials, brass or nickel silver bolsters, then slap a one-armed bandit on the knife and you will have a solid one-hand opening folder that will outperform many high dollar high-end folders.
 
I have to stand by my statement that the Buck 110 is just a Classic from the past and is nothing more than an EDC for farmers.

However, I am quite impressed with the Buck Strider, I think they really nailed it right with the steel, handle and liner!

How would you fellows compare the Strider to, say:

Junglee - Armed Forces
Benchmade - AFCK
Columbia River - M16
Emerson - Commander & Specwar
James Keating - Hornet
Microtech - Socom
Camillus - Cuda
Gerber - Applegate
SOG - Vision
Syderco - Bob Lum
Cold Steel - Voyageur

and dare we compare the Strider to the Sebenza :eek:

Tough to pick a folder with so many choices ! We enduser's are truly spoiled :)

Regards,

JB :)
 
EDC FOR FARMERS? Go ahead and think that, every time you feed your face its because of a farmer in one way or another, its a good thing they have enough sense with their EDC to have a quality tool when needed.... and I think my 560 with a BG42 blade will outdo a Sebenza, been there, done that.
 
Originally posted by JackBoots
I have to stand by my statement that the Buck 110 is just a Classic from the past and is nothing more than an EDC for farmers.
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Nothing more than an EDC for farmers? Hardly. I personally know soldiers, police officers, EMT's, construction workers, computer repairmen, shipping/receiving clerks, cable installers, even white collar office workers who carry and use the Buck 110 to this day.

Now, the Buck Strider is a totally different animal. I too am impressed with the Buck Strider, but some of the other knives you mention like the Junglee Special Forces, Cold Steel Voyager, Gerber Applegate don't even come close in comparison. Don't get me wrong, they're good knives, but they are not in the same class as the Buck Strider. As far as production knives go, the Buck Strider is a massive tank. Only a few folders come close to it's massive construction.

I own a spear point Buck Strider which I like very much. It is a solid knife and I find the spear point version better suited for utilitarian tasks, but it still does not (nor will it ever) have the charm of the 110. In fact, I will go as far as to say that the Buck 110 is a better every day carry design than the Buck Strider. Sure, there is no thumb stud, pocket clip or adjustable pivot on the 110, but overall it's a better cutter and it's much more ergonomic than the Strider. When I say a better cutter, it's because the blade is not as thick, therefore, less drag. If you want an efficient cutter, go with the 110. If you want a folding prybar, get the Strider. G-10 scales and a thick blade don't necessarily make a better knife. Besides, I'm willing to bet that the 110 will still be around long after the Buck Strider is discontinued.

;)
 
WOW That says it all!!
Come to the Buck forum and rip on one of the cornerstones of the company, and probably one of the best selling knives in history.:rolleyes:
Everyones got an opinion, and if you don't like a knife, FINE! But please don't offer your condescending opinion on what a farmer or anyone else might carry as an EDC.
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Originally posted by JackBoots
I have to stand by my statement that the Buck 110 is just a Classic from the past and is nothing more than an EDC for farmers.
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Well, I hope the day comes that I earn my living as honestly as a farmer, and I hope the day never comes that I work as hard as a farmer.

Given that not all feel as I do, this certainly sounds like troll bait.

I just returned from a day and a half at scout camp. On my belt the entire time was a PCKS finger grooved bone 110, with a semi-serrated BG42 blade. That knife helped put together competition sites run by the OA for the klondike derby, cut apart boxes for hotpads to use under dutch ovens, cut food for cooking, and several other chores that came up during the day. OK, so I was camping, but this same knife was on my belt at work on Friday -- I was rushed after work and just took the knives I had with me when I left (which included a BM Griptilian, a Leatherman, and a BM 31s). The 110 got the most use.

As much as I like my strider, it is too big and heavy (wasn't that a complaint about the 110 that started this discussion?), and just not flexible enough for all these applications. If this is a "farmer's knife" then God Bless the farmers, and their appreciation and choice of tools.
 
If slopping pigs and shoveling cow dung is considered honourable work, I think I will stick to my dishonourable white collar profession. :) Being a Christian they naturally have my sympathy, pity and respect for their tough jobs!!

My local knife shop may carry the Strider, so I will take a look next time I am there. The 110 to it's credit is a knife easily acquired at mainstream stores, even Walmart 'may' carry it, I will have to take a look soon. Of course, the price is right too! Losing or damaging the knife is not the end of the world, unlike losing a Sebenza.

Curious how the Buck experts would compare the Strider to the knives listed in my earlier post.

Regards,

JB :)
 
Originally posted by JackBoots
If slopping pigs and shoveling cow dung is considered honourable work, I think I will stick to my dishonourable white collar profession. :) Being a Christian they naturally have my sympathy, pity and respect for their tough jobs!!
JB :)
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Why wouldnt it be honorable? Do you have something against farmers or what?They are the backbone of this and your country.Without them you arent going to get fed.And that goes for Vegans too.Allot of hard working people doing there jobs make you getting to and being able to do yours possible.I dont know if you think your being funny or what but evrytime you post you seem to end up with more egg on your face.You can thank a farmer for the egg on your face too. :footinmou Some one should get one of what you would call dishonorable S H I T shovelers in here to follow you around.Like here:http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=1972081#post1972081 And believe this they dont need or want your pity or your sympathy.And how dare you use those two words in the same sentance as RESPECT as you have none.:mad: Christian pleeeze Jesus was a carpenter and didnt drive a car he rode a animal and Id bet he shoveled his share of dung.Now what? Was he a lowly S H I T shoveler also? Something smells and it's stuck to a pair of Jackboots...............R (edited for spelling)
 
Originally posted by JackBoots
If slopping pigs and shoveling cow dung is considered honourable work, I think I will stick to my dishonourable white collar profession. :) Being a Christian they naturally have my sympathy, pity and respect for their tough jobs!!
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If the Buck 110 is good enough for guys who work as hard as that, then it's good enough for me.

How much more knife do you need sitting behind a desk all day?
 
Originally posted by folsom
Well, I hope the day comes that I earn my living as honestly as a farmer, and I hope the day never comes that I work as hard as a farmer.

Given that not all feel as I do, this certainly sounds like troll bait.

I just returned from a day and a half at scout camp. On my belt the entire time was a PCKS finger grooved bone 110, with a semi-serrated BG42 blade. That knife helped put together competition sites run by the OA for the klondike derby, cut apart boxes for hotpads to use under dutch ovens, cut food for cooking, and several other chores that came up during the day. OK, so I was camping, but this same knife was on my belt at work on Friday .
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Man does that bring back memories.Scouts are some of the best child hood memories I have and my pop had a folding hunter and bought me a folding ranger.Actually he made a trade for his 1911 .45.For it he got A folding Hunter/Ranger a Special a buck hachet and a pathfinder and a couple of other bucks in a deal back in the sixties. He still has most of them........R
 
Originally posted by JackBoots
If slopping pigs and shoveling cow dung is considered honourable work, I think I will stick to my dishonourable white collar profession. :) Being a Christian they naturally have my sympathy, pity and respect for their tough jobs!!
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Jack, regarding that last post you made. :footinmou

You tried to do the same thing in the SOG forum.
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=239367

**Excuse me while a spray a little Lysol to kill the scent of troll in the air.**

Now, since your job as an accountant requires a big, formidable tank of a folder so you can open envelopes and sharpen your pencils, the Buck 110 is out of the question. Heaven forbid that you be seen carrying a farmers knife!!! :eek: Let's see......Yeah, the Buck Strider is just the knife you're looking for. :rolleyes:
 
Gentlemen,

I'd say it was time to give this thread a rest.

Jack, everyone has an opinion on knives, that is why so many different variations are out there and through it all favorites rise to the surface. If being copied is the sincerest form of flattery then the knife industry continues to say very nice things about the 110.

You also remarked about materials.

420HC has taken a lot of fire over these forums. 420HC is a very respectable steel for cutlery. I have skinned, filleted, scraped and opened a lot of things with 420HC. Our heat treat, under the direction of Paul Bos, gets more out of 420HC than anybody else. This means we get the edge retention without losing the corrosion resistance.

I think a lot of people confuse 420HC with a 420J that was used in Taiwan production and got fairly low rockwells. There is no comparison.

These opinions also guided us in the development of our consumer use categories. We break up our line into Hunting, Outdoor Rec, Tactical, Everyday Carry and Limited Editions or Collectibles. Each category has different uses and different circumstances. From the disposability of an inexpensive everyday carry to the pride of a custom everyday carry. From an indestructible tactical heavy fixed blade that you might be called upon to use as a prybar to save your life to the ergonomics of skinning an elk in the snow in gloves and fading daylight.

The morale in all this is that knife discussion is fun and picking on farmers is foolish.

Stick to discussing knives
 
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