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It sounds like they did hire some Camillus people.
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now thats not nice-camillus is gone and maybe gec isnt far behind
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the great eastern crap shoot
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now thats not nice-camillus is gone and maybe gec isnt far behind
Camillus did make some great stuff, and I didn't mean to totally dog them. But they were definitely not known for consistently high quality throughout their entire product lineup. That's the point I was trying to make, to highlight the irony in DaveinNY's post.
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well last night i figured out why the blades are centered-they bent one to get the tip in the center-
man these guys are crappy knife makers-i bet a china knife wouldnt have been so poor-
now my dilemma is do i send it back and take a chance on a service dept that sucks-and besides who knows how long these guys will be around ,they might go under next week while they have my knife for service-a company that sends out this poor a product to introduce its self cant stay open for long-it looks to me like they are sending anything and everything out the door to keep some income coming in,not a good sign
man these guys are crappy knife makers-i bet a china knife wouldnt have been so poor-
now my dilemma is do i send it back and take a chance on a service dept that sucks-and besides who knows how long these guys will be around ,they might go under next week while they have my knife for service-a company that sends out this poor a product to introduce its self cant stay open for long-it looks to me like they are sending anything and everything out the door to keep some income coming in,not a good sign
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i agree-
at the minimum they should have had some presence at this and other forums telling us all will be taken care of yada yada-
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I have (8) Great Eastern knives and other than one I'm going to send back because the ink (or whatever they used to label the blade) looks smeared on one blade of one knife I don't see anything wrong with the rest of the knives I've purchased. Most are not sharp but that is no different than the older/newer Bulldog, older/newer Case, older/newer Fightn Rooster, older/newer Queen, and older/newer Queen/Schatt Morgan/Mooremaker knives. As far as blades being centered, jigging, finish work, etc.., I would put what I have received so far behind(not by much) Schatt Morgan but equal to or ahead of everything else.
Certainly I don't doubt there have been some problem knives but it seems a little early early to be sounding the death bell of Great Eastern.
Certainly I don't doubt there have been some problem knives but it seems a little early early to be sounding the death bell of Great Eastern.
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That is great to hear.. consider yourself to be one of the more fortunate ones.
Well, yeah, thats how its usually done. Thats how its been done for a couple hundred years. Its called "krinking". You don't think that all those old knives by Remington, Case and others had every blade made perfectly so that every one was centered every time in every knife? Once assembled, the knives were checked and the blades "adjusted" so they were centered and didn't hit anything. It used to be almost an art. Now unless the blade is actually bent in the middle or something, this is to be expected. A tip thats been bent or a blade bent in the middle would certainly be a problem though.
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wish i did-i was going to try for a w carson muskrat off ebay-bought this instead
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Your confusing "crinking" with something else, knife blades are crinked to avoid blade rub, whenever knives have blades at each end that share a backspring, on a 2 blade trapper like Great Eastern is making, there would be no need for crinking, since each blade pivots at the same end and has it's own backspring.
Crinking back in the old days was not done by bending blades, it was done when hte blades were made, then by final polishing to clear each other.
From Levines Guide-"Crinking- Bending of the blades of a pen knife or multiblade so that they pass each other". Its an antiquated term, subject to interpretation. Crinking is not even a recognized word in any dictionary nowadays.
You can't know if the blades will sit right until everything is assembled, even if the blades are already bent when produced. If a blade is making contact with something else at some point after assembly you can't just polish that away without losing some of the blade. Same thing applies to a single blade thats rubbing a liner. It doesn't really matter if there is one blade or two blades on a spring, either way its not right if a blade is rubbing on something. The fix usually involves tweaking it(bending, adjusting, crinking, whatever you want to call it) a bit. The old way was to bend and adjust. Some newer multiblades have asymetrically ground blades, in theory theres no need to adjust them. Or not.
In any case, GEC should be checking this and making proper corrections before any knife leaves the shop. Bending a blade in the middle to get the tip centered is not the correct way to do it.
You can't know if the blades will sit right until everything is assembled, even if the blades are already bent when produced. If a blade is making contact with something else at some point after assembly you can't just polish that away without losing some of the blade. Same thing applies to a single blade thats rubbing a liner. It doesn't really matter if there is one blade or two blades on a spring, either way its not right if a blade is rubbing on something. The fix usually involves tweaking it(bending, adjusting, crinking, whatever you want to call it) a bit. The old way was to bend and adjust. Some newer multiblades have asymetrically ground blades, in theory theres no need to adjust them. Or not.
In any case, GEC should be checking this and making proper corrections before any knife leaves the shop. Bending a blade in the middle to get the tip centered is not the correct way to do it.
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Has anyone told GE about these threads & this forum? Seems to me like it would be a good idea.
Tell you what, the only manufacturer I have come across that actually talk to thier clients, in fact make a point of going out & meeting them, is Spyderco. And it counts a LOT. For e.g, Sal & co. have visited the UK twice now to talk to us about thier product, show us what's in the pipe line, get ideas about what we want, etc. As a result, I believe there's been a tangible increase in Spyderco's standing, fan base and of course sales here. Certainly in my case I have bought more, and there's one in particular that I'm really on tenterhooks waiting for it's release!
GE could really learn from the way Sal & his company treat thier customers.
Tell you what, the only manufacturer I have come across that actually talk to thier clients, in fact make a point of going out & meeting them, is Spyderco. And it counts a LOT. For e.g, Sal & co. have visited the UK twice now to talk to us about thier product, show us what's in the pipe line, get ideas about what we want, etc. As a result, I believe there's been a tangible increase in Spyderco's standing, fan base and of course sales here. Certainly in my case I have bought more, and there's one in particular that I'm really on tenterhooks waiting for it's release!
GE could really learn from the way Sal & his company treat thier customers.
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just like the presence of thomas from kershaw-
i sent back a new zdp mini cyclone,they sent the same one back not fixed,i sent a email to the service dept saying i wasnt pleased,within 10 minutes the phone rang and it was thomas-he said he would send a new one out that he would inspect himself-and to top it off he sent it next day-
says alot about how critical they take customer service-
one thing i find strange about gec is a lack of a web sight
i sent back a new zdp mini cyclone,they sent the same one back not fixed,i sent a email to the service dept saying i wasnt pleased,within 10 minutes the phone rang and it was thomas-he said he would send a new one out that he would inspect himself-and to top it off he sent it next day-
says alot about how critical they take customer service-
one thing i find strange about gec is a lack of a web sight