The Greatest American

K.V. Collucci said:
The Greatest American is the US soldier. Hands down. He fights and sometimes dies for what we have today. From the Revolutionary War up until today's current conflict the American soldier has been the backbone of this country yet I don't see him/her on that list.
Thank you Ken. I agree. Deceased, retired and current. They are tops in my book of greatest Americans. You can also add our firefighters and law enforcement personal who risk their lives each day. (not a suck-up Ken, just a fact) Celebrities...greastest Americans :barf:
Scott
 
Ben Franklin was certainly a great American. He also would have been a fun person to hang out with. :D Daylight Savings Time was not one of his better ideas though.

I feel that George Washington was our greatest president. He set the standard, not always followed.

FDR and Abraham Lincoln were effective wartime presidents but they did ignore the Constitution when it didn't allow their plans. FDR tended to ignore it in peacetime, unfortunately. He most likely made the great depression last longer.

If it hadn't been for Martin Luther King, Jr. the civil rights movement would most likely have been much more violent. He preached lofty ideas.

Thomas Edison was definately a great inventor (and improver of other's inventions). His assistants don't get the credit they should, as they were responsible for alot of his great work, but Edison's leadership and ideas pushed technology a good distance in his time.

There have been more great Americans than I can list but I would have to give my vote to Benjamin Franklin. Scientist, Publisher, Diplomat, Inventor, Statesman and Ladies Man. He was a world celebrity during his lifetime. And a Great American.
 
I don't think my top three could be put in any particular order because they were (in my opinion) great for different reasons. By alphabetical order:

Franklin was a man of many talents who gave alot of himself for the country.

Lincoln, despite all his personal problems, kept us glued together and took alot of heat for it.

Roosevelt...will any other president be able to handle that much on his plate?
 
Celebrities on the top 100 list? Puhleeeze.

Here's my picks for the list.

1. The unknown American Patriot who fired the first shot at Lexington green.
If they hadn't shot at the British that day we may not have become a
country at all. So the Unknown American has my vote at #1
2. Thomas Jefferson, without the Declaration of Independence there
would be no revolution.
3. Abraham Lincoln a petty tyrant to be sure but he did what he had to do
to keep this nation together.
4. Ben Franklin his negotiations at the end of the war kept our fledgling
nation from being a colony of France or Britian.
5. Samual Colt the man who finally made all men equal in fact
6. Sam Bowie for obvious but unproven reasons.
7. Ansell Adams America's first great natural artist
8. Teddy Roosevelt a man for all seasons
9. Henry Ford the mass production of the automobile changed America for
the foreseeable future.
10. Franklin Roosevelt changed America greatly some for the good.

Beyond light on Authors and Artist I know.
 
I think Washington is overrated. He was great, but did he accomplish as much as Jefferson in his lifetime? Franklin is easily the greatest fun to hang out with (if you've ever read his autobiography, which I highly suggest you do). Lincoln had at least an equal struggle as Washington in making sure this country became what it is today (full of happy yankees that come down to the south and complain non-stop). MLK? What about Johnson? he actually made a lot of things happen, when it was super difficult. Lance armstrong? really?
 
yuzuha said:
Um, I think you better credit Tesla for that!!!

http://www.ntesla.org/index.php


Tesla my have invented AC/DC current but the first lines were marketed
and installed by Edison and the switch over to AC was also pushed by
Edison. Every building used to have dynamo in the basement. Edison
helped to remove those inefficent system and replace them with Tesla's
inventions. The marketer proved greater that the inventor (Again).
 
fixer27 said:
Tesla my have invented AC/DC current but the first lines were marketed
and installed by Edison and the switch over to AC was also pushed by
Edison. Every building used to have dynamo in the basement. Edison
helped to remove those inefficent system and replace them with Tesla's
inventions. The marketer proved greater that the inventor (Again).

Well, in a big way in small areas of NYC where they could build a small generating plant every block or two.

Westinghouse was the one who started wiring up everywhere with Tesla's transformers and AC generators. :D
 
yuzuha said:
Well, in a big way in small areas of NYC where they could build a small generating plant every block or two.

Westinghouse was the one who started wiring up everywhere with Tesla's transformers and AC generators. :D


You could be right (grudgingly :D ) Don't want to hijack anyone's thread
however.
 
FDR took the US through a catastrophic depression, rebuilt our economy, instituted social reforms on an incredible and unprecedented scale. Then he led the US through a devastating war only to be taken just months before he could see WW II end. He was an amazing man and I shudder to think what the US, not to mention the world, would be like without his impact.
 
fixer27 said:
Tesla my have invented AC/DC current but the first lines were marketed
and installed by Edison and the switch over to AC was also pushed by
Edison. Every building used to have dynamo in the basement. Edison
helped to remove those inefficent system and replace them with Tesla's
inventions. The marketer proved greater that the inventor (Again).


Actually, like many great accomplishments, it's not as simple as one man. For the truly interested, there's a great book called Electrifying America by David E. Nye that documents it well. Henry Ford was actually involved this too. Edison's company, General Electric, had a huge role, but so did many others.

Edison, as previously noted, wasn't actually the inventor of many of the things he's credited with. There's a great book that I can't remember the author of and can't find my copy of called The Unsung Heros of Menlow Park which tells a lot of those stories.

The lightbulb was actually a French invention, but the French couldn't get 'em to last very long. After trying virtually every known substance on the face of the earth as a filiment, Edison sat down and asked, "Why does everything burn up?" It was one of his assistants who conjectured that they burned out because of oxygen in the bulb. Edison then embarked on a program to evacuate the bulbs building bigger and bigger and more and more powerful pumps and pushing his glass shop for stronger and stronger bulbs. Then, one day, one of his assistants re-setup one of the old, weak pumps and took one of the old, weak bulbs from a discarded box and did so in a very careful was as to attract Edison's attention. He proceeded to make a bulb. He turned the bulb on and put it where everyone, especially Edison, could see it. And then he went for a long lunch. And the bulb burned and burned and burned... much longer than any bulb yet made. When he returned, Edison demanded to know the secret, but the man wouldn't tell. Edison almost strangled him to death before he showed his idea. Most bulbs have two wires sticking out of them and one filiment between them. The man made a bulb with three wires and two filiments. He lightly evacuated it. Then he deliberately burned out the first filiment thus burning up the air in the bulb and replacing it with combustion byproduct gas. Becasue the bulb had only a slight vacuum, the glass didn't need to be very strong. But because the oxygen inside had been burned up already, the second filiment was free to burn in an oxygen-free environment. Brilliant!

And so they went into production. After the first filiment was burned out, the third wire was cut off from the outside of the bulb. It could still be seen sticking up inside the bulb, but there was no remaining external connection to it.

Edison had sample bulbs delivered to his lab frequently before the first filiment was burned for quality testing. It was in testing one of these samples that he noticed that he could get a current to flow from the extra wire to the remaining filiment, but not the other way. He was puzzled by this. How could current flow when there was no electrical connection? And why would current only flow in one direction? But he failed utterly to realize what he had. It would be John Ambrose Fleming who would invent the vacuum tube and usher us from electricity to electronics.
 
Here's my list in no particular order.
Bill Moran
Buster Warenski
Wolfgang Loerchner
Josh Smith
Tim Herman
All truly great Americans, or close to America. Oprah is too fat and Ben Franklin, well, I think he died back in the early '60's. OD'd in Pennsylvania if I recall. I always enjoy the truly thought provoking shows TV has to offer us these days. :barf:
 
Don Luis said:
I guess I would vote for Benjamin Franklin, though I wish he hadn't thought of daylight saving.
Luis

LOL! Yeah, I kind of always did want to slap him for that one.
 
It depends on if you take the literal meaning of "great" (ie, the Time Magazine application) or something more like the "best american."

The greatest American would definitely be Ben Franklin for my vote. He just did so many important things.

For the best American, I nominate Barry Goldwater (Sr).

Honorable "greatest" mention to Henry Ford for building the first mass-produced crappy American car.
 
Oh yeah, my vote is going to Tom Cruise. :rolleyes:

I'd have to go with Einstein, Franklin (the only President of the United States who was never President of the United States*), or MLK Jr. Honorable mention to Frank Zappa, who did more for music and anti-censorship than most people know.


*Green chicklets to whoever gets this reference.
 
1. Benjamin Franklin
2. George Washington
3.Thomas Jefferson-James Madison
4 Theodore Roosevelt
5. Henry Ford
6-9. Samuel Colt, Oliver F. Winchester, John Moses Browning
10. William Levitt
TNTC :D
 
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