The Grindomatic5000

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As a stock removal guy I am inclined to agree that on average forged blades seem to have a bit more soul than straight stock removal. I think it has to do with the more free form process. In forging you shape from, for lack of a better term, raw clay. In stock removal I find it easy to catch myself trying to fit a design into the available material rather than just saving it for when I've got a larger piece of steel to use. I think certain habits forging makers get into are tells but those design elements are so popular and traditional because they WORK. It's not that one process is superior to the other, but that each process lends itself to different ways of working and thinking about the design aspects of a knife.

When it comes to jigs and guides and such, I don't think those are a stock removal thing, just a people thing. Let's face it, even die hard forging guys use various mechanical helpers to get things the way they want. Whether it's stops for a press to get a specific thickness or grinding related helpers, there's no corner on the market for mechanical assists. Why should there be? Why should anyone care? Is the careful, methodical and process oriented maker somehow inferior to the completely freeform figure it out as they go and just see what happens maker? The later might come up with more new designs or outside the box concepts, but the former is more likely to be able to repeat their creations accurately and quickly. The first one might take much longer but once done repeats are much easier. I think the ideal is when you have someone who combines both styles of working. Luckily I think a lot of knife makers do combine both elements to some degree or another.
 
He's just looking out for those of us less steady handed. :thumbup: I know that I can use all the help I can get.
 
When it comes to jigs and guides and such, I don't think those are a stock removal thing, just a people thing.

Hey, if there's a cool way to grind a sword-length blade straight and flat on a 2" belt, I'm all ears! :)

As it is, guys like Nick (who I admire a lot!) go to the disc grinder to straighten things up between belts, and that's on a < 10" blade...
 
I meant it to be read as the mechanical aids aren't specific to stock removal, but how people work, regardless of whether it's forging, stock removal, or not knife related at all. Part of being human is that we're tool users and look for ways to make a process easier or more reliable. Sure. I can manually slice a couple dozen potatoes into french fries, but I'd really rather make or buy a tool to get nice even fries. It's not bad, it's just efficient. If my goal was artistic fries I'd do them by hand, but when my goal is consistent, fairly regular fries I'll use the guide.
 
I think the whole freehand jig debate stems from the top makers and their opinions towards factory made knives. Its really silly. So you can use your hands to get a straight grind. Good for you its just your brain telling you to use your hands as a jig. My brain might tell me to design a jig so i dont have to depend on my hands. The difference is semantics and irrelevant. I think both methods are just fine. Its like a farmer telling a top chef that his food is crap because he didnt grow his own tomatos.
 
I'm dying to see the Grindomatic5000 but the picture links are broken...can you repost them please??

THANKS!
 
It sounds like a super gizzmo to use. I wish I could get a look at it. I'm not getting pictures. Frank
 
This is an old thread ( as far as threads go). Sam has pulled the photos to make room form other more recent posts. I will close the thread. If Sam wants to post new pix, he cam start a new thread. Otherwise, send him an email.
 
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