The Lack of The 18" BDC Review

All you young fellers look alike to me. However, I too have developed a bad reputation as a hiker ever since a "friend" got me in way over my head in the Sespi Gorge. The outing turned into a survival trek during which we had to split up the gear of one member of the party to help him make it out. Since then I only trust my own judgement. I was laid up for five years with a back injury from 1985 to 1990. When I recovered my 50th birthday was less than a year off and I felt bad, so I began training for a 50 mile hike to take in lieu of the usual black balloon five-O parties folks like to throw for their friends. So, on my 50th birthday I was out in nature all day long and completed the trek carrying food and water in my pack in 16 hrs 30 min. And I felt good.
 
Munk,

Just getting back here since my home computer is being repaired:thumbup:

I'd love to see some pics from the top of the cliffs and of the caves and I'll post them if you take them!:thumbup:

So are the cliffs limestone?
 
Yes, Limestone. There is a large system that is barricaded by BLM for some political nonsense reason. Endangered bats live there a few months out of every year. The system is alleged to be as extensive as some of the largest in the US. The mountains are riddled with caves. They say the bodies of ndns who died of small pox are stuffed in many of them, along with Spanish Conquistador armor. I wouldn't know about that, but some of the caves I've found have ndn paintings.

Most of them have old bones and packrat droppings, sometimes a couple feet high. IN one cave we found a bone that had been chopped by a axe or very large knife. I''ve always intended to have it looked at by a scientist.



munk
 
munk said:
Yes, Limestone. There is a large system that is barricaded by BLM for some political nonsense reason. Endangered bats live there a few months out of every year. The system is alleged to be as extensive as some of the largest in the US. The mountains are riddled with caves. They say the bodies of ndns who died of small pox are stuffed in many of them, along with Spanish Conquistador armor. I wouldn't know about that, but some of the caves I've found have ndn paintings.

Most of them have old bones and packrat droppings, sometimes a couple feet high. IN one cave we found a bone that had been chopped by a axe or very large knife. I''ve always intended to have it looked at by a scientist.



munk
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Sounds incredibly cool:thumbup:
 
Well that sounds really interesting. As long as you are taking pictures of the cave you need to take another of yourself. This is where you get your meanest looking khukri, torch, a leather jacket, and a good fedora step into one of the caves and do your best Indiana Jones impression.:D Seriously some pics of the caves would be cool even the bone you mentioned.
 
That sounds very cool.

Avoid disturbing dust and dried droppings. You never know what's living in there.
 
I love checking out caves. Its dangerous as hell though. And like dave said, the air isn't always healthy. If I thought I could get hold of some old spanish armor or ndn artifacts you couldn't keep me out!


Edited... I wouldn't keep the ndn artifacts as I believe those need to be respected. My post sounded like a greedy grave robber's and I didn't want to give the impression that I would taint an ndn site. I was an anthropology major in college and if I found a site I would try not to disturb it. My grandad and I used to hike around the creek beds in Kentucky looking for arrowheads and fossils in the gravel. I see that a difference between that and an ndn site hidden in a cave. Now the Spanish stuff I'd take as a souvineer. No guilt about it either.
 
Well, all the sites with alleged bodies are on the Reservation side of the mountains and sacred and untouchable- thank God. But many interesting items remain to be claimed elsewhere. I don't think anyone has found all the caves here. There are a lot.


munk
 
after alll of political ramblings of last year, I kind of pictured munk looking like hollowdweller and hollowdweller looking like munk. ........ That is really strange that the mind play tricks on you , or is it that reality is stranger than we expect.

I'm envious of the BDC, that is a fine looking khuk, I would like a bgrs of the same size and weight.
 
Some folks get alarmed when Hollow and I disagree about politics. They don't know that he and I are actually kindred spirits in too many ways to let Republican or Democratic views push us apart.


munk
 
munk said:
Some folks get alarmed when Hollow and I disagree about politics. They don't know that he and I are actually kindred spirits in too many ways to let Republican or Democratic views push us apart.


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Amen.

Plus what fun is it if we set around patting ourselves on the back and agreeing with each other?:thumbup:

That's really cool you have that much public land bordering your place. We have a lot of land around ours but there's always a chance it may get sold and a housing development or some such Babylonian thing.

In fact we almost lost our place to an airport. Luckily us and our friends joined with the folks from the airport that this one would have replaced and raised so much cain that the FAA actually questioned the cost/benefit analysis that the port authority did and determined it was rigged and canceled the project.

That was after over 2 years of going to public meetings and my buddy Woodstock Bill getting this left wing lawyer to work for free and sue them for violating the open meetings law.
 
No fun at all. The darned thing is we both think the other's head is slightly screwed on wrong but the heart is screwed on correctly. And that, my friends, is the ballgame.



munk
 
I guess I need to drop in here more often!

Munk, you DO have more hair than the guy from My Name is Earl.;) WHile I have exactly as much as Uncle Fester.

Its funny, you look a hellava lot like my first cousin Greg . Greg worked for MTV last I heard so I imagine that's where the similarity ends.

Nice scenery too btw. :thumbup: That mountain is alot like I pictured it, but more steep and less trees than I imagined.
 
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