The large or small 21 debate!

[Ajack60]

While I'm not a fan of the Insigno blade, that's probably the one that would serve the most useful. It has more belly for cutting tasks and can pierce for cleaning game.
For me, I do more piercing in my work and the tip end on the drop point is more useful for me.

 

[Acadian]

That would be much appreciated!

hopefully this helps. let me know if you want any more pictures.

 

[Anarchy84]

Great pics, Acadian. Nice work.

 

[Acadian]

Great pics, Acadian. Nice work.

thanks! Just trying to help as much as I can...

 

[irona]

Let me start out by saying that I don't own either.
You're basically spending big bucks ($350-$400+) on a knife that you've wanted for years, so here's what I would do - go with the one you really want. If you get a small when you really would have preferred the big, you'll probably always be wondering, "What if I went with the large..?", and if you get a blade shape that might be more practical but isn't the one you really want, you'll be wondering what it would have been like to have the other blade shape.
They're great knives, you can't go wrong with either. Buy what you want.
A way I've always been able to tell which of something I really want when I can't even tell is to flip a coin. The second before it hits your hand, you'll know
Good luck!


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[Michael Riley]

hopefully this helps. let me know if you want any more pictures.

This is exactly what I was looking for!

Could you post a similar picture of them all open showing the spine/tip of the blades?

How does the tip strength compare between the two? The drop point appears stronger in pics, but I'm not sure if the swedge on the Insingo gives it the illusion of being weaker when it's not? I've read a lot of post about how the Insingo has a very strong tip due to the design, but it's hard to tell from pics.

Thank you for taking the time to take specific pictures!

 

[Acadian]

hopefully this helps. let me know if you want any more pictures.

This is exactly what I was looking for!

Could you post a similar picture of them all open showing the spine/tip of the blades?

How does the tip strength compare between the two? The drop point appears stronger in pics, but I'm not sure if the swedge on the Insingo gives it the illusion of being weaker when it's not? I've read a lot of post about how the Insingo has a very strong tip due to the design, but it's hard to tell from pics.

Thank you for taking the time to take specific pictures!

I'm back in the office for the day but will take more pictures for you when I get home later today.

I've never broken the tip off any of my CRKs, so to me they are equally strong. I don't pry with them - for that purpuse I use my Rexford RUT or multi-tool (depending on what I'm carrying that day) .

 

[Anarchy84]

You'd be hard pressed to break the tip off of a Sebenza during appropriate usage, regardless of blade shape. Obviously using a $400 knife as a crowbar is not recommended. 😀

 

[Michael Riley]

You'd be hard pressed to break the tip off of a Sebenza during appropriate usage, regardless of blade shape. Obviously using a $400 knife as a crowbar is not recommended. 😀

It's really more of a mental thing. I don't often test the limits of my knives with inappropriate usage (except that time I tried to pry a 9mm out of a board with my Delica and bent the tip...), but I like to know where they stand on the scale of light to heavy use.

 

[archieblue]

Sm. Seb. RFP, Spydie Military IWB.

 

[Anarchy84]

It's really more of a mental thing. I don't often test the limits of my knives with inappropriate usage (except that time I tried to pry a 9mm out of a board with my Delica and bent the tip...), but I like to know where they stand on the scale of light to heavy use.

I once used the swedge of my large Insingo to pry the top of a car door out so I could slide a coat hanger in to unlock it. Didn't feel insecure about it's strength at all, and it didn't leave a mark. That's about as rough as I've ever been with it.

 

[Acadian]

hopefully this helps. let me know if you want any more pictures.

Could you post a similar picture of them all open showing the spine/tip of the blades?

 

[Michael Riley]

Thank you! I love how strong the spine is on the drop point, but I know I would like the Insingo better for using since my favorite blade shape that I own is the 940...

I guess I'll just have to keep watching vids and reading posts until November, and then make an impulse buy after a few beers. If drunken words are sober thoughts, then drunken purchases must be sober desires

 

[Davor]

Kahr 380 is a nice gun. I own one. I would buy the smalll sebenza with titanium handles or any wood inlay. I've owned and used mine for 6 years. It's well made.

 

[powernoodle]

Any advice from personal experience is appreciated!

Yeah - start carrying your knife on your weak side, so nothing is in your strong side pocket but your gun and holster. I've been doing that for 10 years, and you get used to it pretty quick. It becomes completely natural. Respect that trigger, brother!

 

[photoman12001]

After owning several CRKs I've found that I carry my plain small 21 and plain 25 most. I think you should own a large 21 to really appreciate the Sebenza design but in the end I slightly prefer the 21 in small. The 25 is my preference for large. I like the way inlays look on all of them but prefer to use a small with no inlays. For a large 21 I might like to use one with inlays a little more than plain but it's really a coin toss. I do prefer the feel of the 25 with inlays. The plain 25 feels great too and I currently carry my plain a lot because it already has a lot of marks on the handle and blade.

Here are some videos in case you're interested:
Overview: https://youtu.be/raphxLWQhro
Small vs Large: https://youtu.be/LHe4a3bIQO8
Size Comparidons: https://youtu.be/vdxx-5YRtck

My current favorites for carry. The 25 is getting plenty of snail trails and a nice distressed look.

My current collection. I've got plenty of variations from which to choose.

 

[AWGD8]

I just got a used , but in excellent condition Large Sebenza 21.
I have 2 PM2's and 2 Yojimbo 2's and one Hinderer Eklipse. (tanto)
For opening these knives, the large Sebenza is the slowest.
There is something with the weird stud location that this Sebenza is harder to open accurately, than to use your whole thumb and holding the scale higher than usual makes it easy to drop the knife for SD while opening it. (OP's reason to carry)

I am selling mine while I am typing this. I heard a few people also mentioned this issue with the Sebenza. Most of them says the Umnumzaan is quicker to open than the Seb.
After flicking open my PM2, Yojimbo 2 and Hinderer Eklipse, I don't recommend the Seb for SD or tactical carry knife. BTW, I am not a knife user, but just a collector and carry my knife for emergency or SD only.

To OP: This might change your mind and save you a lot of money...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1ddOdONCCqU