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The most unusual item in a kit?
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Good stuff but if water was in short supply, it should probably be avoided. Coffee and tea can cause diuresis which would not help a situation where the water supply is precious. This would be especially true in arid and semi arid environments where respiratory water loss and water loss due to evaporative cooling would be high.
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Hoodoo
And so, to all outdoor folks, the knife is the most important item of equipment.
Ellsworth Jaeger - Wildwood Wisdom
Originally posted by Greg Davenport:
ok hoodoo,
how do you get the cork out?
A Piece of string is not a good idea, since you can cut the cork in half.
The best way, and I have used it, once the bottle is empty, is to use a handkerchief or bandana, roll it up, put some 5 inches of it inside the bottle, turn the bottle upside down and try to put the cork inside the rolled handkerchief or bandana, and pull it out, you get the cork out!
A piece of string might not be a very good idea but it works.
Over the years, I've done it at least a dozen or more times and barely dented the cork. That's how I made my millions--from barroom bets.
By the way, the best barroom bet I ever saw was one I can't repeat here (had something to do with anatomy
) but the next best barroom bet I ever saw was from a guy I knew who could open a tin can with his tooth. And I mean those large commercial tin cans too. Never seen anything like it. It was like he had a built in GI canopener.
He could gnaw the top right off a tin can.
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Hoodoo
And so, to all outdoor folks, the knife is the most important item of equipment.
Ellsworth Jaeger - Wildwood Wisdom
[This message has been edited by Hoodoo (edited 06-24-2000).]
By the way, the best barroom bet I ever saw was one I can't repeat here (had something to do with anatomy
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Hoodoo
And so, to all outdoor folks, the knife is the most important item of equipment.
Ellsworth Jaeger - Wildwood Wisdom
[This message has been edited by Hoodoo (edited 06-24-2000).]
I got some more:
- Tea bags. Make me feel good in the morning.
- Vaseline. Used for fire starting (wipe it on tinder or dry moss), as lubricant, and for feet so you don't blister.
- Mouse traps (already mentioned above) but can be used to catch squirrels for food.
- Small netting. Used to catch crawdads.
- Tea bags. Make me feel good in the morning.
- Vaseline. Used for fire starting (wipe it on tinder or dry moss), as lubricant, and for feet so you don't blister.
- Mouse traps (already mentioned above) but can be used to catch squirrels for food.
- Small netting. Used to catch crawdads.
I've got one no one else has brought up:
a HAMMOCK!
Mine is a cheap model, but it works.
Sleep on it, carry stuff with it, use it as a fish net...
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a HAMMOCK!
Sleep on it, carry stuff with it, use it as a fish net...
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Awww... you ruin all the fun...
If water supply were short, I would have half a cup on day one so I don't end up with a headache. If water supply is nil, I'll have a headache shortly anyways from dehydration, a little caffeine-withdrawal headache ain't gonna bother me...
I know, I'm addicted. But I don't care. Of the things to be addicted to, it has the best value/cost ratio. And if I wasn't a coffee-holic, people would look at me funny when I mock $tarbuck$.
Stryver, but it doesn't matter, people look at me funny anyways, and I still mock $tarbuck$
Interesting thread. A friend of mine owns a couple of commercial fishing boats, he went to his doctor and got a prescription for a small amount of heavy duty pain killers to keep in his first aid kits in case of a serious injury at sea. The suggestion about amphetamines reminded me of this.
Another friend of mine who was in Special Forces during the Viet Nam conflict told me that on extended forays into the bush each soldier carried one item with him that was strictly for his own enjoyment, such as a pipe, a particular type of candy or condiment to spice up his food, etc.. He said it had a very positive effect on morale.
Another friend of mine who was in Special Forces during the Viet Nam conflict told me that on extended forays into the bush each soldier carried one item with him that was strictly for his own enjoyment, such as a pipe, a particular type of candy or condiment to spice up his food, etc.. He said it had a very positive effect on morale.
Stryver,
Maybe you should pack a couple nodoze in your mini kit. Might relieve the withdrawal symptoms.
I have to admit, good coffee (I'm a latte freak myself) and good tea are hard to beat, especially for the psychologidal lift. But as you often point out, water is far more crucial than food and depending on the situation, every drop could count. The average person loses 2-3 liters of water each day but even that can vary wildly. Think of a very dry climate and every breath you take in is dry air that becomes saturated in the humid environment of the lungs. Then you breathe it out and the water that was once in your body is gone.
Camels, those wonderful critters that can travel for days in the desert with nary a drink, breathe through their noses and have special bone structures in their noses that allows that respiratory water to condense and be absorbed. Unfortunately, we don't. That's one of the reason's camels can easily outlast us in the desert. Another is that they produce a very very concentrated urine. 2X more concentrated than ours.
Drink a little coffee, sip a little tea, and the situation can only grow worse as diuresis sets in.
Now imagine sweating away that water in a hot environment. The water/sweat was supposed to absorb heat from your body but it sits on your skin, fully exposed to the sun (because you are wearing shorts and a T shirt and not a robe like most desert dwellers), and absorbs more thermal energy from the sun than from your body and evaporates. You have to sweat more and more. Eventually, the blood becomes thicker and thicker as you lose fluid from the plasma. Your heart is working to pump the blood but it can't pump it fast enough to carry the internal heat you are producing in the core of your body out the the surface of the skin where you can lose it by evaporation and radiation. Your body temperature is now rising and soon you will die from explosive hyperthermia. Bummer.
I'll have a double cap please.
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Hoodoo
And so, to all outdoor folks, the knife is the most important item of equipment.
Ellsworth Jaeger - Wildwood Wisdom
[This message has been edited by Hoodoo (edited 06-24-2000).]
Maybe you should pack a couple nodoze in your mini kit. Might relieve the withdrawal symptoms.
I have to admit, good coffee (I'm a latte freak myself) and good tea are hard to beat, especially for the psychologidal lift. But as you often point out, water is far more crucial than food and depending on the situation, every drop could count. The average person loses 2-3 liters of water each day but even that can vary wildly. Think of a very dry climate and every breath you take in is dry air that becomes saturated in the humid environment of the lungs. Then you breathe it out and the water that was once in your body is gone.
Camels, those wonderful critters that can travel for days in the desert with nary a drink, breathe through their noses and have special bone structures in their noses that allows that respiratory water to condense and be absorbed. Unfortunately, we don't. That's one of the reason's camels can easily outlast us in the desert. Another is that they produce a very very concentrated urine. 2X more concentrated than ours.
Drink a little coffee, sip a little tea, and the situation can only grow worse as diuresis sets in.
Now imagine sweating away that water in a hot environment. The water/sweat was supposed to absorb heat from your body but it sits on your skin, fully exposed to the sun (because you are wearing shorts and a T shirt and not a robe like most desert dwellers), and absorbs more thermal energy from the sun than from your body and evaporates. You have to sweat more and more. Eventually, the blood becomes thicker and thicker as you lose fluid from the plasma. Your heart is working to pump the blood but it can't pump it fast enough to carry the internal heat you are producing in the core of your body out the the surface of the skin where you can lose it by evaporation and radiation. Your body temperature is now rising and soon you will die from explosive hyperthermia. Bummer.
I'll have a double cap please.
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Hoodoo
And so, to all outdoor folks, the knife is the most important item of equipment.
Ellsworth Jaeger - Wildwood Wisdom
[This message has been edited by Hoodoo (edited 06-24-2000).]
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Re the corkscrew comments, since no one has mentioned the following. Someone in a thread asked how to use a multitool, without a corkscrew, to get a cork out. Someone suggested that you just carry a screw, such as a wallboard screw. Screw it in part way and then use the pliers to pull it out with the cork.
Makes sense, but I have not tried it. As I recall there were some comments about pushing the cork a little to loosen it before pulling. Considering the point on the screw, one might want to use it to store a small amount of tape.
Makes sense, but I have not tried it. As I recall there were some comments about pushing the cork a little to loosen it before pulling. Considering the point on the screw, one might want to use it to store a small amount of tape.
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How about a jar of "Grey Poupon" When you find yourself lost you whip it out, and some millionaire in his "Hummer" will suddenly appear, and ask for it by name.
It works on T.V.
It works on T.V.
About the cork dilemma:
Though I have not mastered myself in it, a friend of mine could force the cork out by tapping the bottom of the flask against some vertical wooden wall (tree). Needs couple of tapping till its out. I still do not understand how it works.....
Another unusual item: sanitizing handy (or hand?) gel in small squeeze bottles. You can get them easily in any supermarket. It sanitizes your hand without water. Also, it contains high percentage of ethanol and can be used as tinder to start a fire.
HM
Though I have not mastered myself in it, a friend of mine could force the cork out by tapping the bottom of the flask against some vertical wooden wall (tree). Needs couple of tapping till its out. I still do not understand how it works.....
Another unusual item: sanitizing handy (or hand?) gel in small squeeze bottles. You can get them easily in any supermarket. It sanitizes your hand without water. Also, it contains high percentage of ethanol and can be used as tinder to start a fire.
HM
Hmmm, brings back some memories. I remember when was at a big outdoor party some 20 or so years ago. Hogroast, volley ball, kegger etc. It was gettin' kinda late (or early in the am) and most of the party had scattered when I ran across a lovely lady with a bottle of mead to share and no corkscrew. She had heard that if you bang the bottle on some wood the thing would pop its cork so that's what I did. After about the third tap the bottle shattered. Guess who didn't get any that night? Any mead, I mean.
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Hoodoo
And so, to all outdoor folks, the knife is the most important item of equipment.
Ellsworth Jaeger - Wildwood Wisdom
You wasted the mead. I cna't belive you wasted the mead. Next itme you don't feel like drinking the mead, send it my way. There's no need to waste it.Originally posted by Hoodoo:
Hmmm, brings back some memories. I remember when was at a big outdoor party some 20 or so years ago. Hogroast, volley ball, kegger etc. It was gettin' kinda late (or early in the am) and most of the party had scattered when I ran across a lovely lady with a bottle of mead to share and no corkscrew. She had heard that if you bang the bottle on some wood the thing would pop its cork so that's what I did. After about the third tap the bottle shattered. Guess who didn't get any that night? Any mead, I mean.If I had just pushed the cork in, who knows...
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But doom'd and devoted by vassal and lord.
MacGregor has still both his heart and his sword!
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It's the caffeine that's the diuretic (Tea has some other eines, but they're similar). Nodoze will pull water out of your body just as much as coffee. More, since a typical nodoze has no water in it to start with.
Cappuccinos are breakfast drinks. For the midafternoon, give me a ristretto.
Stryver, an admitted coffee snob.
Yes. I am aware of that. I just meant that in lieu of having a pot for coffee to stave off a headache (or having no coffee), you could fallback on nodoze. All assuming water was freely available and would be if you have a stream, water purification tablets, and a condom.
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Hoodoo
And so, to all outdoor folks, the knife is the most important item of equipment.
Ellsworth Jaeger - Wildwood Wisdom
Chuacher's is good. Not the best I've had but I can't remember the brand of the stuff that I really liked.
One problem I can see with commercial mead is the inability to get consistent honey. Also it has to be pastuerized just right. To long and you mess up the honey, not long enough and you don't kill the wild yeast.
Of course, if you drink enough to get drunk, you best have one hell of a hang-over cure in the morning
One problem I can see with commercial mead is the inability to get consistent honey. Also it has to be pastuerized just right. To long and you mess up the honey, not long enough and you don't kill the wild yeast.
Of course, if you drink enough to get drunk, you best have one hell of a hang-over cure in the morning