The Navaja - Spirit of Spanyards

Nemo

Nemo

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Hello,
just made a little glimpsed review and some pic of the Navaja.

http://nemoknivesreview.wordpress.com/2011/04/22/spyderco-navaja-carbon-fiber-c147cf-spirit-of-spanyards/

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Cheers
Nemo
 
Loved the "review" Nemo; really liked the pictures too. Many thanks!

Amuses-toi bien avec ton Navaja!
 
I have updated my blog's post with some pics of the convexing process... (sorry shangchi, no cheese for you !)

Here is a sample:

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Nemo said:
I have updated my blog's post with some pics of the convexing process... (sorry shangchi, no cheese for you !)

Here is a sample:

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Nice tuning, I like it! :D

How fine did you take the edge?

JD

(I like cheese too, especially yong Dutch cheese ;) )
 
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It's convexed and finer than before. Now I don't have any measure instrument... but it cuts really better than before.
Before it did not pass my "bottle but test", the edge was really to thick... now as soon as I got a bottle I will try it !

Gouda is perfect for cheesy testing. I have tried some with Pesto in it ! yummy ! ;-)
 
In this special case the cheese should be from the Island of Beauty: Corsica !

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Excellent review and pictures! Also loved the little Asterix insert, I remember reading that particular book some time ago. Lots of Corsicans deploying their knives in that one IIRC.
 
7rip13a said:
Excellent review and pictures! Also loved the little Asterix insert, I remember reading that particular book some time ago. Lots of Corsicans deploying their knives in that one IIRC.
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Thank you !
Yes ! :-)
Lots of folding knives deployed with a huge sound ! All Corsican got a folding weapon (mainly knives but also a telescopic spear!)
Asterix when written by Goscinny is top notch. This man was a genious.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ren%C3%A9_Goscinny

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Nice review! :thumbup:

I would be all over this one if it had a different lock; :foot: maybe a nested comp lock?
 
BlackNinja said:
Nice review! :thumbup:

I would be all over this one if it had a different lock; :foot: maybe a nested comp lock?
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Why ? did you get any bad experience with linerlocks ?
In 16 years of using linerlocks from precise manufacturers, I never had one failed. So the lock on the Navaja is really not an issue. Also the large choil is giving another security. My Starmate (thin liner and thick blade) for example is a vault.

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Benchmade AFCK M2HS (considered in 1998 by James Loriega as a modern Navaja), the Spyderco Navaja and the Spyderco Starmate.
All liner locks all 100% reliable.

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Three Amigos !
 
Nemo said:
Why ? did you get any bad experience with linerlocks ?
All liner locks all 100% reliable.

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Three Amigos !
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Yes! They have failed on me numerous times - thin, thick, I don't care - if it's a liner-lock, I don't own it. The Starmate (while a very attractive knife) failed on me with very light/easy spine-whacks – as has the Chinese Lum (very disappointed at the ease of that one failing); same with my Military, failure fairly easily with a light spine-whack. Although the Military is the only one that failed me while in use. I have owned nearly (or possibly) a hundred different Spyderco's and I love them - best production knife on the market for the money, IMO. Spyderco's Lil' Temp is my 2nd all-time favorite folder; just behinnd the Sebenza. I’m just not a fan of liner-locks.

Just my 2 cents, YMMV...

Edit - Spyderco’s I’ve owned: 98 (apr)
 
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YMMV this is true.
I too was able to make fail some liner locks, but cleverly kept those which never failed me. Folding knives are not fixed blades but when you know how to use hard a friction folder or a slipjoint knives, locking blades are very welcome.
The big plus in the Navaja (compared to the two other amigos on the picture) is the choil which helps to transmit the force applied directly to the blade and ease the pivot and the construction. (In the middle age, a folding knives was only held by its blade and the handle was considered as a attached sheath ! Like an old razor...)
Good old navaja from Spain can be very tricky too in term of lock reliability, but Sevilian knows the limitation and the strenght of their knives.
Oh, I even know a famous knife designer who considers that a folder (whatever the lock) should not be used on wood...:confused: Wood cutting should only be done with fixed blades...
YMMV this is really true. :)
 
Nemo said:
YMMV this is true.
I too was able to make fail some liner locks, but cleverly kept those which never failed me. Folding knives are not fixed blades but when you know how to use hard a friction folder or a slipjoint knives, locking blades are very welcome.
The big plus in the Navaja (compared to the two other amigos on the picture) is the choil which helps to transmit the force applied directly to the blade and ease the pivot and the construction. (In the middle age, a folding knives was only held by its blade and the handle was considered as a attached sheath ! Like an old razor...)
Good old navaja from Spain can be very tricky too in term of lock reliability, but Sevilian knows the limitation and the strenght of their knives.
Oh, I even know a famous knife designer who considers that a folder (whatever the lock) should not be used on wood...:confused: Wood cutting should only be done with fixed blades...YMMV this is really true. :)
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It was food-prep on 2 occasions and I (barely) stuck it in the picnic table on the 3rd (they were NOT used as screwdrivers and etc...) - I don't blame anyone but myself, but I have every right to be dissapointed... I have done the same + w/ my Sebbie (and a LOT more with my ex-SmF) and never had a problem. What do you suggest folders are made for? Seriousy, I'm not trying to sound like a prick. Some folders are certainly made for woodwork. Either way, I shouldn't break a tip during food prep - and have the warranty voided out on a knife I paid $140ish for - that's why I won't spring for a Ti. Millie; I'll spend the extra $$ (although not by a whole lot) on a knife that I don't have to worry about warrantee issues.
Again, YMMV...

Edit: Google 'woodwork and folding knives'; also, what about folding multi-tools with folding saws and such... the point being, plenty of folders are used for woodwork, carving, gardening and etcetera...
 
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BlackNinja said:
It was food-prep on 2 occasions and I (barely) stuck it in the picnic table on the 3rd (they were NOT used as screwdrivers and etc...) - I don't blame anyone but myself, but I have every right to be dissapointed... I have done the same + w/ my Sebbie (and a LOT more with my ex-SmF) and never had a problem. What do you suggest folders are made for? Seriousy, I'm not trying to sound like a prick. Some folders are certainly made for woodwork. Either way, I shouldn't break a tip during food prep - and have the warranty voided out on a knife I paid $140ish for - that's why I won't spring for a Ti. Millie; I'll spend the extra $$ (although not by a whole lot) on a knife that I don't have to worry about warrantee issues.
Again, YMMV...

Edit: Google 'woodwork and folding knives'; also, what about folding multi-tools with folding saws and such... the point being, plenty of folders are used for woodwork, carving, gardening and etcetera...
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You are right. I use my folders hard also and my Swiss army knives with no lock have been used on wood too (even the saw has no lock!) !:thumbup: I was just quoting a famous knifedesigner who wrote "that" when people complained about some vertical play after using his knives on wood...:rolleyes:
I'm very happy with any folders for whittling... again the choil is a great improvement for freeing your mind about having the knife closing on your finger.
(I really enjoy my Michael Walker Sprint Run on very hard matters to pushcut. I cannot imagine how the lock can disengage on this one... It's my most powerfull folder and it's so light and tiny, but nothing resist to it. It pushcuts where other bigger and mighter folders cant!!! My ZDP C22CF is amazing... )
 
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